NormanH Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 A video that is worth watching all of...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgu6pFz5oxA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Nice find, Norman. I too don't understand why the UK is leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Huge Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I remember an interviewer asking Priti Patel why she was campaigning for Brexit, and she started talking about Brussels bureaucracy, red tape, etc etc, and the interviewer asked her to give a specific example of over-regulation, and she said "Packaging". So there you are. We are leaving the EU because Priti Patel doesn't like EU rules on packaging. This woman is now a Cabinet minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Well found Norman I thoroughly enjoyed the clip ... it did me good to be reminded of what we had demanded and what we voted for - especially now we are complaining that it is all too much for us and we need to leave.Like many others I am of the opinion that the EU does need reforming, but from within and that we cannot do after we have left.Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 "Like many others I am of the opinion that the EU does need reforming, but from within and that we cannot do after we have left."I agree, Sue.The part I still can't understand is why the leaders of both main political parties, neither of whom were fervently openly anti-EU, are now stubbornly plodding on to see it through.Especially Corbyn, though he might be still more influenced by the views of the late Tony Benn than we realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Corbyn will do as his Union paymasters tell him.Bennnwas a pratt of the first order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 And the tories will do as their big-shot business backers tell them? C'est kif kif, non?Actually, I think it is more of an ideological than practical argument........otherwise I can't for the life of me think of a reason for mass self-harm and collective suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Couldn't agree more, Nimt.Remember, the country lives off business, ultimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Apparently because it's a nation of idiots with an inept government.Led by a prisssy holder of a degree in Geography, followed by no less than 10 with degrees in PP&E/other economics subjects, 4 Historians, 3 Business/Admin types, 2 Lawyers, a Medic, a Mathematician, and little Michael with his English degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 but, surely Jeremy Corbyn is a better bet with his degrees in ........ ooopsie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebaynut Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Interesting clip, however when it states the 'advances' that the UK have made in the EU, it really should state the UK government has made them. Matters not whether you vote Conservative or Labour, as these are the two parties which always form the government, both support EU membership, or the smaller ones, Liberal democrats, Green, or SNP, they all support the same.The only one party who really pushed against the EU is little UKIP, and thanks to the wonderful Mr Farage, he made Dave call a referendum.Finally the people where given a chance to vote on a subject which controlled their whole lives, and finally a chance to get out of the EU.So, it was not the UK which pushed for these 'advances' claimed in the video clip, it was the UK government, the real people of the UK chose to leave, as all along they hated it, but this was their first and only chance to do something about it. For those who ask 'why did they do it', I can only say, if you need to ask the question, you clearly would not understand the answer. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 There has to be a second referendum which rises above the racists and the little Englanders. Unless, of course, they are scared of losing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebaynut Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Please sir, it never went my way, I want best out of three of this ONCE in a life time vote. O dear, O dear !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 That is what elections are for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I think FLABBERGASTED covers what I think about the very idea that it is a bad idea to leave the EU.We have a swedish friend, and she goes mad about some of the EU regulations, as pre joining the EU, swedish regulations about pollution were very strict. They now use EU regulations and at least where she is from, they are back to the problems they were having, pre their own government making things more stringent.I have no idea why there is this attitude on here of what feels like to me, 'dread' about leaving. AND another election about it........... well IF that happens, I shall be campaigning against the EU, that is for sure. It is not as if this might not have dire effects on,me, us, it certainly could and we could end up moving back to France if our income will be greatly affected. Which would be OK, after all, we have, even now, spent most of our adult life in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 [quote user="idun"]We have a swedish friend, and she goes mad about some of the EU regulations, as pre joining the EU, swedish regulations about pollution were very strict. They now use EU regulations and at least where she is from, they are back to the problems they were having, pre their own government making things more stringent.[/quote]That sort of anecdotal "I have a friend who says" may be responsible for false information Googling I found:Environmental quality standards for outdoor air are, for different types of air pollution, either threshold values or air quality objectives. The standards are either as stringent or more stringent than the threshold values specified in the EC directive for air qualitysource: https://www.eea.europa.eu/soer/countries/se/air-pollution-national-responses-swedenWhich suggest that the EU puts in place a threshold, but the individual country can choose to use it, or put its own more stringent standards in place What is there "to go mad about" in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 And therein lies one of many fallacies about the EU and its impacts.So why does Sweden not then revert to its old (supposedly better) standards, which as you rightly say is still within their right?Well I can only think of one reason. It would make their industries uneconomic against other EU states that subscribe to the EU standard but do not aim to improve upon it.So what to do? Leave the EU? Well good idea, set your own better standards (which you could have done anyway inside the EU) and lo and behold: You are still uneconomic against those other EU states.The one thing the EU has done is to at least set a minimum standard, before which states could have done what they wanted - and some did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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