PaulT Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hearing all these candidates drone on and on about this that and the other perhaps the ballot paper should have an option of 'Lucky Dip' for those undecided. Putting an 'X' here would cause a computer to generate a random selection for a party and assign it to the voter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith-aka-Judith Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Indeed, quite frankly, a computer could hardly do worse that those who vote mindlessly, voting exactly as they've done every year they've voted, "because my father / husband / mother etc etc voted that way"!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 OTOH, I want to point out that perhaps those "mindless" voters are not as docile and thougtless as you would think!I suggest that it is possible that people who live together or are influenced by past experiences may indeed share the values and mind set of those they are close to. So, I find it not unlikely that children would vote as their parents, peers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I can safely say that as soon as I can I switch all british politicians off as soon as they come on the tv or radio. I just don't read or watch now. I sincerely hope our local MP gets the boot, because they are as awful as the last Labour one we had. I don't know who I am going to vote for, but I shall be voting and shall have to have a little look at who is on our list before next Thursday.I have no interest in the party leaders at all and there are a three I particularly dislike intensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Is it not so that the postal votes don't even get opened unless it's a close run race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Where did you get that information from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith-aka-Judith Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Mint, I hear what you say - yes, indeed, and there's the rub. People just are not taught these days to think for themselves, and make up their own minds. Hence the cults of celebrity by those not before really worthy of the name, "the don't want to stand out from the crowd", etc so herd instinct be it from family or peers matters not. That's what I meant .... and for once in my life I voted against my usual instincts as I want to see a difference ... and this year it is possible as our constituency is currently much more open than it has been for years. And since my proxy vote has already been decided I don't watch the politicians' (correct use of the apostrophe, I hope!) debates and news any more, I hear enough from listening to the radio headlines as I work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 It's predicted that we'll have the first snows of the winter next Thursday so probably the turnout will be low.Judith - I agree with you. If everyone ever had the ability to think for themselves, most have lost it now since the influence of the media.We have a good longstanding Labour MP who has got a lot done here, and will vote for him.Can't stand Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Conservatives have held Wokingham since 1950, when the constituency came into being, and our MP from 1987 has been John Redwood. He has always been strongly in favour of leaving the EU and is a member of the ERG. Normally nobody could beat him, but there’s a small chance this time. Philip Lee left the Conservative party, for whom he was MP for Slough, and is standing for the Lib Dems. He’s also a GP.Wokingham voted to stay in the EU in the referendum and votes in a high number of Lib Dem councillors. I’ll be voting for the Lib Dems, I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed and hoping against hope that Philip Lee wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 [quote user="Patf"]Can't stand Johnson.[/quote]Pat, me neither. Did you hear Andrew Neil "empty chairing" him? Like many on here, I am avoiding the debates, the polls, etc because they either annoy me or bore me to tears. So I didn't see it myself.Apparently, Neil asked how Boris is going to stand up to Trump, Putin, etc if he couldn't face Andrew Neil for half an hour?I think Boris is running scared ........ terrified that his lies are catching him up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yes GG.As I think you know, our elder son resides in your constituency.He’s not a fan of Redwood (never was, even before ‘B’) so you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 And our eldest daughter lives in Crowthorne, not far away.Mint - I also wonder how long he'll last for, but he has the support of a network of similar characters, mainly based on money, so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Redwood, yes, I remember him well from when he was Welsh Secretary. Used to see him on the train platform in Bridgend, ususally earlyish in the morning. Never approached him of course and never sat next to him as he would be in first and I'd be in cattle class. Also, I got off in the next stop, in Cardiff, and I supposed he'd be off to London.There he'd be with his sour ascetic face and spare frame and I used to think he looked like a dyspeptic monk or similar and that maybe he looked like Rasputin (imagination going wild here!) He looked so colourless and, for me, lacked all animation, what with his slight lisp and his wooden gesturing hands.....yuck!He was infamous for not knowing the Welsh national anthem. There was a TV camera shot of him moving his lips and it was obvious that he was only pretending to sing. A Welsh Secretary who didn't know the Welsh national anthem was taken as a serious insult by the Welsh and I don't think he lasted long in that post.I think a predecessor of his, Peter Walker, fared rather better and got on OK, despite him being a Tory and of course Haig learnt Welsh from a native Welsh woman in the Welsh Office and then he married her. So, he was, like me, some sort of honorary Welsh person[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 He actually married her? Odd, marrying teacher!Anyway, they are all such sh*its that the only way is to vote for the one which suits you best. So, the one which will do the least t9 mess up my way of life. Viva Monster Raving Looney! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 At our previous house round the corner, Our next door neighbour was member of the Mobster Raving Loony Party - Top Cat was the name he called himself when he went out and about locally chatting to passers-by.Their manifesto made some excellent points, mostly seemed very sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I was only saying to my husband the other day that I wish Lord Sutch was still alive. At least one could dance to his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 It looks, possibly, that an MP and prospective Home Secretary may have sent their son on a research reccy to test police resolve in the event that, following next weeks election, they become the police services' head honcho.Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I think he may have bitten off more than he could chew? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 If you're not capable of successfully manouevering your way around your shoe cupboard and you're also unable to distinguish your left foot from your right, how could you possibly be responsible for the security and safety of 68 million residents of the GB and NI?Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Surely that is a prerequisite for a Home Secretary?Or is she telling us she has two left feet or.... is a left footer!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinBretagne Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 [quote user="cajal"]If you're not capable of successfully manouevering your way around your shoe cupboard and you're also unable to distinguish your left foot from your right, how could you possibly be responsible for the security and safety of 68 million residents of the GB and NI?Here[/quote]A shallow ignorant point of view. 'If most of us are ashamed by of shabby clothing and shoddy furniture let us be more ashamed of shabby ideas and shoddy philosophies... It would be a sad situation if the wrapper were better than the meat wrapped inside it.'Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 BiB are you suggesting that Mr Einstein is referring to the lady with the two left feet as ‘meat’? Hardly appropriate. Perhaps better not posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 [quote user="BritinBretagne"]A shallow ignorant point of view. [/quote]It is looking as though the great British public would also disagree with your opinion, for what it was worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Well, it is all over now, so onwards to the land of milk and honey.....allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Michael Foot won more seats back in 1983!!!! Once the champagne socialists absorb that fact, they may, just may begin to make inroads back into becoming a viable alternative.Tip for the future:Don't tell the electorate you will honour a referrendum vote and then campaign on a alternative policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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