UK labour party suspend Jeremy Corbyn.

[cajal]

Aherm, is this the same Jeremy Corbyn that 12 months ago the labour party believed was fit and competent enough to become prime minister of the UK?

[Tancrède]

HAHAHAHAHA !

'A Labour Party spokesman said: "In light of his comments made today and his failure to retract them subsequently, the Labour Party has suspended Jeremy Corbyn pending investigation.

"He has also had the whip removed from the Parliamentary Labour Party."

Shall we all get together, perform coordinated swaying, and chauntle, 'Oh Jewummy Corbyn, Oh Jewummy Corbyn…' ?

[Catalpa]

No more than he deserves, I'm sure. [:D]

But on a more interesting note (to me) Tancrède, is that a Maine Coon cat in your profile pic?

[Alan Zoff]

The all-powerful religious brigade wins again.

I'm no great fan of Corbyn but free speech no longer exists. Disgraceful.

[NormanH]

Exactly Alan.

In the other thread  where we discussed freedom of expression, I pointed out that

"there is no absolute right to freedom of expression, since it can be forbidden by the law of the time in a particular country in dealing with specific topics.

This has been exploited by some powerful pressure groups who have managed  to make certain opinions illegal:

racist

, sexist anti-homosexual  comments can be punished by the law, and  one

can say that 'so they should be', but this underlines the fact that

there  are constraints on the  freedom of expression and  that those

limits change according to fashion.

One of those pressure groups has created a situation where criticism of the politics of Isreal   is considered to be  the form of racism known as "anti-semitism", and that is one of the areas that freedom of expression has been curtailed.  It is particularly bizzare given the  very dodgy comments made by Johnson in the past:

"

1. Referring to Muslim women as 'letterboxes'

In a 2018 column for The Daily Telegraph relating

to a burqa ban, he wrote that was "absolutely ridiculous" that "people

should choose to go around looking like letter boxes".

He continued:

If

a constituent came to my MP’s surgery with her face obscured, I should

feel fully entitled… to ask her to remove it so that I could talk to her

properly. If a female student turned up at school or at a university

lecture looking like a bank robber then ditto: those in authority should

be allowed to converse openly with those that they are being asked to

instruct.

2. Saying Malaysian women only go to university to find a husband

This

was in response to Malaysian prime minister Najib Razak saying at the

2013 World Islamic Economic Forum that 68 per cent of women were going

to be attending university, to which Johnson replied:

[Female students went to university because they] have got to find men to marry.

Would he have said the same about British (white) women? It seems doubtful

3. Using a racial slur

In

2010, he used the word "piccaninnies", an extremely derogatory term,

which he surrounded by an extremely derogatory take, saying:

It

is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly

because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving

piccaninnies.

Wow.

4. Using another racial slur

In 2002, in yet another Telegraph column, he described black people in the Democratic Republic of Congo as having "watermelon smiles".

Writing about a prospective trip by then-PM Tony Blair to the DRC, Johnson stated:

No

doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their

hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in

watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white

British taxpayer-funded bird.

Last

year, while running for leader of the Conservative party, he was asked

about these comments. And no, he did not apologise. In fact, he brushed

it off as "satire". We're not laughing.​

6. Using dog-whistle racism against Barack Obama

In April 2006, he wrote in The Sun that:

The

part-Kenyan president [has an] ancestral dislike of the British empire –

of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender.

The evidence for this? His race.

7. Using the word "Nigerian" as an insult

This

one is interesting because we think he was actually trying to insult

"young people" – the racism was just a byproduct. Here's the quote:

All

the young people I know – ie those under 30 – are just as avaricious as

we flinty Thatcherite yuppies of the 1980s in fact, they have an almost

Nigerian interest in money and gadgets of all kinds.

8. Wanting to bring back colonialism

We're back to The Spectator,

this time in 2002, when he seemed to want to re-invade Africa (yes, the

entire continent), saying “the problem is not that we were once in

charge, but that we are not in charge anymore".

He continued:

The

best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their

citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding

that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty.

9. Saying black people make him uncomfortable

In a column in 2000, Johnson said that a "bunch of black kids" made him “turn a hair”, and added:

If that is racial prejudice, then I am guilty.

Yes, you are.

10. Saying we should "axe" parts of an "anti-racism industry"

In the same column, he railed against the Macpherson reforms, which were proposed in the wake of the Stephen Lawrence case.

These

reforms have since become the standard for prosecutors. They allow

victims and third parties define if something is racist. Johnson wasn't

keen, saying it was "Orwellian stuff" from the "PC brigade".

He

also wrote that they were "just as wrong" as Enoch Powell, presumably

referring to his infamous racist "rivers of blood" speech.

At

the time, Michael Mansfield QC, who represented the Lawrence family at

the public inquiry, called Johnson's comments a "disgrace", saying:

“This is a man who is deeply prejudiced and obviously I’m horrified

about the possibility that he may remain prime minister. He is

fundamentally sexist and racist."

[woolybanana]

You are great fun when you rabbit on, Norman.

By the way the OP was about Corbyn; how did BJ get in there?

He was right about burquas aka letter boxes. And some countries in Africa would be a lot better off if recolonised for50 years or so or until stable eg Zimbabwe!

Is the word picannini pejorative nowadays?

[EuroTr@sh]

"By the way the OP was about Corbyn; how did BJ get in there?"

Dunno but since he has got in there, it prompts the thought that the Tories must be enjoying having the pressure taken right off them for a day or so. They're having a bit of fun smearing Kier on social media and nobody asking any awkward questions about lockdowns or Brexit or million pound contracts given to their cronies that aren't delivering value for money.

[woolybanana]

True, for,once.

Why not simply expel Corbyn so he can go form his own party which is what he should have done at the beginning.

I wonder if Labour will also suspend or expel the other MPs who have been in anti-Semitism - some 21 so far, all cronies of Corbyn.

To which they can add Ross Thompson after his outrageous allegations against a sitting MP were disproved as lacking in truth because they kept changing.

[Tancrède]

When I became part of the movement, very well orchestrated (even here in France) to make Corbyn leader of the ‘Labour’ Party, I had no idea of the enterprise would be crowned with such success.

‘Entryism’ is one of socialism’s greatest inventions, and I am so glad to have been able to do a bit of it myself.

At the moment I am particularly delighted to see that the very act of Rebutting the Charge is in itself, an admission of guilt.

Poor old Magic Grandpa said (and not without justification) ‘I think that the antisemitism of the Labour Party has been exaggerated’. That (in dystopian and Woke theology) says, ‘I am guilty myself of antisemitism.’

OF COURSE it has been exaggerated. Nobody deniges of it. I myself have done everything in my limited power to augment to this essentially fictive accusation and by God it elates my spirit to see that it has succeeded to splendidly.

[cajal]

So that will be:

Keir Starmer - 2

Cyclists - 0