vervialle Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I have just returned from France and I have never been in January before despite having a house for fifteen years, so I was interested to see in our little hamlet the movement of the shutters, it has always been a subject that has intrigued me as I cannot seem to establish a rule of thumb.In the summer I spend three months there and they have there shutters closed permantly unless it rains.At Easter it depends if it is sunny or not, so I thought in January they would be open but oh no all were closed and I am intrigued as ,I can understand them being shut in the summer to keep out the heat , protect the paintwork from the sun, but do they really enjoy spending the short winter days in darkness or with a light on all day.Most of the village do not pay for there wood so it cannot be to conserve heat.Is it burglar protection, they must think I am crazy as I cannot stand the short winter days with the shutters shut.My house is in the limousin by the way,is there a reason as it is a subject that really fascinates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Most of my bedroom ones remain closed most of the year. Winter or summer I will open the windows to air the room but that is it. When the kids used their rooms to play in or as they grew older would stay in their rooms to listen to music then they would be opened, but not if they were not going to be in the room.I don't stay in my bedroom apart from being in bed so don't need daylight usually. Our living room and kitchen shutters are open during daylight hours in winter. As soon as we start using daylight then I shut them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeb Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I wondered this about the houses in our village until I realised that most folks live in the back of their village house - kitchen living room etc are at the back overlooking the garden. Shutters are open during the day of the rooms folks live in and the street side remain closed - maybe because people don't want to be cleaning their windows too often. We are in a hamlet and our front ones facing the road (and south) are shut at night, and also pulled to in bright sunshine to keep the house cool. We didn't want them closed all the time when we are away as it show wouldbe burglars that the house is empty so our neighbours open and shut them when they feed the cats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suze01 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 If it's cold, shut them to keep out the cold.If it's hot , shut them to keep out the hot air (and flies).If it's hot, open them at night along with the windows (as long as you've got mosquito nets!) to cool the house, but make sure to shut them again before it starts getting too hot again in the morning.If you're leaving the house, shut them for insurance purposes.If none of the above apply do what you will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-R Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 In the summer we open the ones in the shade and have all the others ajar. In the winter we open the ones in the sun during the day and have all the others closed.Some people never seem to open there shutters at all. They must enjoy living in the gloom or have 100w light bulbs all over the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Its quite strange that my husband always closes the shutters when he see that the old chap near by has closed his and we notice now that the people further back from us then close theirs. Whether this shutter 'semaphore' is just peculiar to us or travels around the commune, I haven't yet worked out! We have kept some of the back shutters closed all day upstairs, just to help keep a bit of heat in on colder days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 We too are baffled by this shutter etiquette. We take our lead from the the lady across the road. When she shuts hers in the evening we shut ours. Don't you think every village should have a head person of shuttering so we could all folow them.This would solve this problem once and for all.!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Upstairs we open the shutters when daylight arrives and close them whenit goes. Downstairs we only close them in extremes of temperature or ifwe are out (we're double glazed and have curtains, somewhat unusuallyfor this locale, I'll grant). I cannot live in a cave. Plenty of ourneighbours do though, and only seem to open up March - May andSeptember (mid) to November (mid). One old boy did point out that whenone spends most of the day outside in all whethers as many countrypeople do, the idea of windows seems rather spurious. I can't see itmyself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 [quote user="Suze"]If you're leaving the house, shut themfor insurance purposes.[/quote] I have these clever board things that go over the glasssections of the front doors (the things that are hooked on the outside of thedoor and cannot be lifted off when the door is closed – simple andclever). First year I was here, whenreturning to the UK for Christmas I was unsure about fitting them. I live remote from other houses (at leasthalf a Km from the nearest house) and figured that they would be more of an advertisementthat I was away for some time than much else (as there were doors and windowsround the back without these boards). Ichecked with my insurance agent and they said that they had no requirement forme to use them.I guess it’s a difficult balance between telling the worldyou are away for some time and making access harder – that in part probablydepends on exactly where you live. Also, I guess shutters make less of an “I’m away for some time”statement as they are closed when people are in a bit more..Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastines Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I'm glad that Deimos put in her reply that the insurance co. said there was no obligation to close shutters etc. The folk law used to be, No shutters= no valid insurance. When our insurance agent, from Groupama, checked our house for public liability for our B&B, we made a point of asking about shutters. "Not necessary or obligatory, but for a claim there must be a forced entry".Regards.By. St.Malo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I agree Gastine one should always ask an insurer about shutters. There are companies who would insist that one has them and that they are used if you are going to be absent for more than a certain amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie15 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I used to be puzzled about this.Years ago on this site it seemed to be accepted that you must have shutters and they must be used.We asked our builders-they thought we were bonkers!!We then asked the insurance company and they just laughed!!! Maybe it was a regional thing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opalienne Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 We close ours when it gets dark, and half-way (they are 'persiennes' which roll down) during the day when it is very hot - which is rare in N France. We do have curtains but never use them except for extra warmth during the winter. When we are away a neighbour comes and raises and lowers them per usual. I think it's up to you - certainly our insurance company has never said that we needed to have/close them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 [quote user="Lizzie15"]I used to be puzzled about this.Years ago onthis site it seemed to be accepted that you must have shutters and theymust be used.We asked our builders-they thought we were bonkers!!Wethen asked the insurance company and they just laughed!!! Maybe it wasa regional thing??[/quote]It probably got stated as fact once and just got accepted, and perhapsit was once the case. I certainly thought that their use was arequirement until about a year ago and then the nice lady from AXA toldme en passant that they would be happy to insure us shutters ornot. As someone said, evidence of forced entry is what is seemingly themost important thing as far as the insurer is concerned. That said,shutters are pretty bloody good at keeping the casual miscreant out,not to mention the daft blighter who loses his key... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suze01 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Re the insurance thing, it's best to check your individual policy. When we were having a solid wooden door replaced last year with French windows our insurers stipulated that we had to have either shutters (to be closed when house is unnoccupied), a fixed grille or security glass to a certain standard (ie that cannot be smashed through). My advice would be to check the small print, insurers can vary enormously.I wonder how many of us have actually looked through the small print of our policies to see what is and isn't covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racerbear02 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Our insurance agent for Generali told us that shutters are obligatoryif we are away from the house for over 24 hours and must befitted to any window less than 4 metres from the ground. We have one window which we use for passing building materials etc. inand out of into a neighbouring courtyard, I asked if I could use a pairof padlocked steel garden gates, which were in the barn and would fitthe opening perfectly, I was told no, I had to have Volets or steelbars which were fixed to the wall. However if I bought a set of40 Euro platsic shutters from the local Brico Depot, these would beacceptable !!! I have done this and now comply with the insurance requirements, but any malnourished 5 year old child could break through them.As most shutters coul be cut through in a matter of seconds byavailable hand held tools, perhaps the agencies will change theirrequirement, or perhaps not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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