trees 2 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Here's a question that's been bugging me for some time: why is it that if I have ONE drink at lunchtime/early afternoon, I quickly begin to feel woozy, and need to sleep. If I don't GET the kip I need, I'm allegedly not very nice.[;-)]However, once evenings come, I can put it away with the best, (worst?), of 'em. No apparent ill effects, and no hangover the next day.Is there a reason for the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr orloff Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 You need more practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Katie Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 [quote user="dr orloff"]You need more practice.[/quote][:D]Or a Proplus!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Dordogne Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Drink Sanatogen at lunch time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Could be to do with your circadian rhythm. I believe the average person hits a natural low in the early afternoon, (I know I do [;-)]), and in such a state the effect of alcohol could become exagerrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Katie Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 OK seriously, my friend actually went to the doctor for a similiar 'complaint' but with cider. He told her to try lager instead. Gods honest truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Interestingly the chart shows nothing from 10:00 to 14:30, maybe that's when I'm supposed to sleep then.The 08:30 bowel movement is pretty spot on too, shame I don't get up until 09:00 [:D] [IMG]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/biskitboyo/circadian_rhythm.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Pretty good chart.0645 Sharpest rise in blood pressure - yep, thats when I'm driving to work1430 Best coordination, thats when I finish work, got to coordinate locking the office and walking to the car [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Forgive me, but what the **** is "Melatonin Secretion"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 MelatoninMELATONIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 While it is clear that melatonin interacts with the immune system,[38][39] the details of those interactions are unclear. There have been few trials designed to judge the effectiveness of melatonin in disease treatment. Most existing data are based on small, incomplete clinical trials. Any positive immunological effect is thought to result from melatonin acting on high affinity receptors (MT1 and MT2) expressed in immunocompetent cells. In preclinical studies, melatonin may enhance cytokine production,[40] and by doing this counteract acquired immunodeficiences.While it is clear that melatonin interacts with the immune system,[38][39] the details of those interactions are unclear. There have been few trials designed to judge the effectiveness of melatonin in disease treatment. Most existing data are based on small, incomplete clinical trials. Any positive immunological effect is thought to result from melatonin acting on high affinity receptors (MT1 and MT2) expressed in immunocompetent cells. In preclinical studies, melatonin may enhance cytokine production,[40] and by doing this counteract acquired immunodeficiences.Thanks Clair - all crystal clear now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 So you got all that? [blink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicandJo Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I'm screwed. I work nights.........[:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I have found another, more accessible, article on melatonin: A short course of melatonin may be enough to reset the natural clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Interesting article, Clair. Melatonin has been used for yonks against jet-lag, successfully for many (not all).The melatonin I used for insomnia did not have any good effects, I seem to remember at the time it just gave me a headache...perhaps it was a mediocre make, as it was hard to get (illegally) in the UK, or perhaps the wrong dose. So this is interesting:Recently Circadin, a preparation of melatonin, has been approved for prescription on the NHS for people of 55 and older who have been suffering from insomnia for at least a month. Circadin is slowly released over six hours and thereby provides the body with melatonin throughout the hours of sleep.I wonder how I could get some to try. As for drinking at lunchtime, I went to see the Tour de France yesterday, not too far from me, in a little town which seems to boost a very large number of British immigrants and holidaymakers. It seemed that for many, part of the fun was to walk around in the crowds with a large glass of rosé in their hands (didn't see any French person doing that...).In fact, you could play "spot the Brit" - which I didn't, of course, being part British myself, I know to show respect.[:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Great chart Ernie!09.00 highest testesterone secretion - now that explains a lot doesn't it boys?[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Where did I read that a woman needs a certain amount of testosterone-like hormone to be produced by her own body, as it determine her libido levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Ummmm....the Daily Mail?[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote user="TWINKLE"]Great chart Ernie!09.00 highest testesterone secretion - now that explains a lot doesn't it boys?[:)][/quote]09.00 ???????? way too late in the day. 06.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 09:00 is much too late for an early riser like me too [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote user="TWINKLE"]Ummmm....the Daily Mail?[:)][/quote]Not so, dear Twinks. I cannot claim to have ever read the DM in my life.Some medical kind of paper. Progesterone (the hormone produced in the second half of the mentrual cycle) has something to do with testosterone. OK, rather than writing stupidities here, I would be better off spending my time doing some proper research. Off I go.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Yes you are correct 5-element (as usual[:)]) Here is another chart - sorry couldn't find anything simpler, hormones are so complicating aren't they?http://www.aly-abbara.com/livre_gyn_obs/termes/androgene_action_cellulaire.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote user="TWINKLE"]Yes you are correct 5-element (as usual[:)]))[/quote]Beware, I might quote you to Mr. 5-E "Twinkle says that I am usually correct". Eh?[Www]Thanks for link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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