woolybanana Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 This one might get a few collars hot or at least a few red faces. We Bananas dont get a look in but I suppose "mongrel" would do!!Suspects card-indexed according to their skin color?By LEXPRESS.fr, published the 05/12/2008 09:05 - updated the 05/12/2008 09:12 The group of control of the files, reactivated following the polemic on Edvige, would propose to try out this type of pointing in its draft report to the government. The ministry for the lunatic Interior.The criminologist Alain Bauer, president of the group of control of the files, contradicted Thursday to want to try out a pointing of the suspects of infringement combining the skin color and the ethnic origin.The group of control of the files, reactivated following the polemic on Edvige, proposes to try out this type of pointing in its draft report to the government whose AFP had a copy Thursday, which contradicts Mr. Bauer.In the document arrived at AFP, the group of control recommends “in the majority” to retain a classification which he had already proposed in a preceding report/ratio in 2006 integrating ten “types”: Mediterranean and Caucasian, African/West-Indian, mongrel and different, Maghrebian, means-Eastern, Asian, indo-Pakistani, Latin-American, Polynesian, mélanésien.“Ethno-racial Classification and classification by chromatic range”The group requires “of the suppression of the type “gipsy”” who exists in the police software baptized “Canonge”. He also proposes “the experimentation” during one year “on a department including rural area and urban area” of a device combining “ethno-racial classification and classification by chromatic range”.That “does not correspond has any element of the provisional text of the report/ratio”, declared Mr. Bauer in a development in AFP.“The question which was the subject of debates” in this group “relates to indeed the manner of characterizing a person: does one have to use the membership true or supposed at a ethno-racial origin or must one rather make use of a chromatic range? They are there two proposals for associations which were the majority rejection object of the group, in particular of the representatives of the State and trade unions of police force "", put forward Mr. Bauer.According to Mr. Bauer, it “was simply discussed possibility of removing the existing ethno-racial types in particular to avoid any creation of a statistical tool based on these criteria concerning of the required people (authors, missing victims, absconders, etc)” and that so “respecting the positions of the Constitutional council, the Dump, the CNDH, etc”.“It was noted that no viable and consensual technical solution appeared”, adds it, “except for the suppression of the type “gipsy” who does not correspond to any rational criterion”.This subject, according to him, was put on of deliberated until Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert the InfoGipsy Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 [quote user="woolybanana"]“except for the suppression of the type “gipsy” who does not correspond to any rational criterion”.[/quote]I'm trying to work out if I should feel relieved or insulted. [8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 After reading this I'm green!! [+o(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 So, if say dogs or cats of different colours breed say black and white, the offspring usually have patches of black and white yes?When hoomans do the same the child will be a blend, no patches. Why is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I assume that you have google or otherwise translated the original article, is there any chance of you posting the original in French or a link to it so that I might possibly understand it?Trying to read the "translation" wound me up too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Try this http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/les-suspects-fiches-selon-leur-couleur-de-peau_719623.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling a frog Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I do not know what the fuss is about, the police in the UK have been using skin colour and ethnic origin codes for at least 20 years to impute into the PNC (police national computer) and is one of the search facilities available .On The Bill when you hear someone say that the person is an IC one it means white european List of codeshttp://www.tilehurst.net/infopool/ic.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Nor I, and the more you try to apply 'politically correctness' to what is completely natural the more you emphasise and perpetuate the issue.White people are whiteBlack people are blackChinese and Japanese people are (a bit) yellow, and for the most part do happen to have slitty eyes.What's intrinsically wrong with saying any of that so long as it's not said with malicious intent ?If everybody was to STFU about it it would barely merit a mention.Would this mean that Wooly get's lumped in with the Chinese then I wonder ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MAC Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 As a Scot I can advise that for 90% of the year I am a pale bluish grey.....for the remainder I am either lobster pink or peeling......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 [quote user="BIG MAC"]As a Scot I can advise that for 90% of the year I am a pale bluish grey.....for the remainder I am either lobster pink or peeling.........[/quote]... with midge bites dotted about the body .... [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 As far as the UK is concerned ....there are 16 ethnic codes to choose from depending where you hail from and what shade you are or the slant of your eyes ....dont ask me to list them .I cant remember what as Eskimo is anyway ! ...... Whats wrong with it ? ...we are all different on this planet after all .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MAC Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Cathy, too much information perhaps? For the record there aren't too many midges in Hants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 when apartheid stated in south Africa, my husband's family were split into 3 parts - some white, some Malay coloureds, and some black - depending on how dark their particular mix turned out - NOT FUNNY- as they were not supposed to live together anymore. They were a mix of Boer, black African, British and Egyptian. OH's parents came over to the UK to escape the horror of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I know what you mean Odile having sat on a bench for "Whites " waiting for a bus talking to the black guy sitting on his bench next to me ....crazy !...but these codes in the computer age we live in are just used to cut down on the stuff you have to input to describe us all in our mixed society... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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