woolybanana Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Nice little spat building here. Methinks ze pot iz calling ze kettul blak, n'est ce pas?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1110300/Inhumane-Britain-solely-blame-thousands-immigrants-France-blasts-senior-French-politician.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hi!Here France is not the question. Such things are not a balance sheet.You can post those separately.Yours,giantpanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 My dear GP, the source was the Mail so naturally odious comparisons spring to mind, given some of the readership. But lets just ask if we think the minister is right ie that UK is being unreasonable in keeping these people out and thus putting an unfair burden on France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Those trying to get into UK illegally from (possibly) ex colonies are, I suggest, likely to be of an age such that they were born after independence of such colonies therefore have no claim to preferential treatment.The UK colonies became independent countries at their own request and insistence, backed by the rest of the World who objected to British colonialism. Their choice therefore their problem.As illegal immigrants into Europe they are required to be handled by the first 'safe' country they enter, by no stretch of anyone's imagination can the off shore island of UK be thought of as the first 'safe' country.The French minister is being rather silly. (thats putting it mildly to avoid upsetting our French members) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 powerdesalHear hearUK doesn't really have any choice regarding people coming from other EU countries, there are probably more going to UK than France.Maybe he should look at how the "illegals" got into France before criticising UK.I think he's just p***ed off that UK didn't sign the Schengen Agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 So can sombody put me right here .....Taking what this minister said..Does this mean that every person in the world that speaks French having learned it because of being from some place under French control I the past .Algeria ..French Indo Chinea for example... and now wants to come to France because thats where he can be understood ......He is free to enter the country and claim everything going from French benefit system ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Truth be known, we dont want them either, but the UK because of its location, although where they would like to be, is much more difficult to get to.So they get as far as the tunnel on this side and thats the end of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 How inconvenient for France that the UK is an island..... [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 [quote user="Cathy"]How inconvenient for France that the UK is an island..... [/quote]I'm sure those living there are extremely pleased, and so they should be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling a frog Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 [quote user="giantpanda"]Hi!Here France is not the question. Such things are not a balance sheet.You can post those separately.Yours,giantpanda[/quote]Please explain your comment in understandable english [8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 There are separate issues intertwined, purposely, in my original posting. he wants them treated separately which is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegwini Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Those trying to get into UK illegally from (possibly) ex colonies are, I suggest, likely to be of an age such that they were born after independence of such colonies therefore have no claim to preferential treatment.The UK colonies became independent countries at their own request and insistence, backed by the rest of the World who objected to British colonialism. Their choice therefore their problem.As illegal immigrants into Europe they are required to be handled by the first 'safe' country they enter, by no stretch of anyone's imagination can the off shore island of UK be thought of as the first 'safe' country.The French minister is being rather silly. (thats putting it mildly to avoid upsetting our French members) quote PowerdesalThanks Steve for a sensible and balanced post.Most of the illegals would be unlikely to find jobs, if allowed to, and in fact most have some knowledge of the UK Welfare State and plan to exploit it. Some ethnic groups born, or in the UK for years, have a hig percentage that are predominantly unemployed and on benefits- and make little effort to integrate.Shame we're such a soft touch.Tegwini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marym2 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I was part of a jury last year, this immigrant knew how to get away with certain things and this was the resulthttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6960794.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 No rapist should remain unpunished. But nowhere in the BBC article does it say he was an immigrant, and an illegal one at that?What is your point exactly Marym2, that illegal immigration leads to rapes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marym2 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 As I said I was on the Jury. Count the number of rapists who are illegals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiling a frog Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I still do not see your point.A man raped a woman and during the trial he absconded but in his absence was sentenced to 8 years As you were allegedly on the jury please inform us of the relivance of this to illegal immigrantsAre you suggesting that he raped the person because he was an illegal immigrant or that he absconded because he was an illegal immigrant orSomething else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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