velcorin Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 http://www.leparisien.fr/politique/sarkozy-veut-retirer-la-nationalite-a-certains-criminels-d-origine-etrangere-30-07-2010-1017227.phpSome of this beggers belief.1 It will be official. A foncs life IS more valuable than a citizen (read SMICard)2 Let's repeat history. We kicked the Hugenoets out, we kicked the Jews out, we kicked the Roma out. Now let's kick the Roma out again, and anybody else we wants to stigmatise in order to save our priviledged little political neck.3 The Constitution protects Citizen from the State. How is the State going to remove Citizenship from Citizens, without rewriting the Constitution? Presumably in the same rewrite he'd be Emperor for life?Hot air, filling headlines, call it what you want. Desperation? Engaging brain before opening mouth, as President he's dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I am with him on this one Velcorin, did you actually see/hear the speech?I really dont think that he was judging one life against another.Dismantling illegal camps that have become no go areas for the public authorities whether they be gens de voyage, romas or irish travellers is a good move in my view as is taking away previously granted citizenship.Once again his speech was reminiscent of Margaret Thatcher when he spoke about engagement and droits et devoirs, a theme that he has consistently stuck to, it would in my view be hypocritical of him to ignore the current situation of lawlessness, if the idea of droits without devoirs continues to spread France will rapidly catch up with the UK.Editted, I do agree that concentrating on the Romas is just pandering to the present public mood but it will be against all such communities, I was especially pleased to hear that he would be sending in the fisc controllers, although I cant see many prosecutions they may well sieze cash and biens like they did with the Irish tarmacers, could the ex-pat Chelsea tractor on the drive,swimming pool and CMU de base community follow? - probably no time soon but the media coverage of such events as the English drug dealers in the Dordogne do add fuel to a slow burnig fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velcorin Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 He’s got record low approval rating, a stalled economy, allegations of campaign finance irregularities, corruption. So, he fights back stressing security, his signature issue from his May 2007 election. Sarko first launched his crime crackdown when he was Interior Minister in 2002, so it’s a seven-year record that he’s being judged on, not just his three years as President. It’s not a good thing for him if people don’t think things haven’t got better. He's acheived zip. Just like the economy, just like everything else he promised. Name something he has actually acheived[Www] (I'm waiting[:D])No, I haven’t heard the speech. I do think he speaks well, but so did a certain Adolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Wait no longer, - Auto-entrepeneur.P.S. I think you have too many negatives in the part "not a good thing.............." Now your turn, - name one thing that the Romans did for us? [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 The US and Oz are two that I know of that do this already. I'd bet it's not even new news. I haven't read the small print on gaining French citizenship, but I wouldn't be surprised if what to do to get it revoked wasn't in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velcorin Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 I'm back! Cheers Chancer. I reread that sentence, it is gibberish, not exactly a shing advert for public schools[+o(]. You get the gist though. Over lunch I've caught up with the weekend press. 100% they all agree with me. Hot air and bullsh*t. Even his own party are against him now.OK Chancer I will accept AE. But like, name 2 famous Belges (really, not fictional). Name another success[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I did think of a couple of things but they were instantly forgotten, they may have been memorable but I have virtually no short term memory!Famous Belgians?Jean claude van damme.King Leopold (if I remember his name correctly) had a good way of making sure that he or his regime wasnt forgotten, hacking off the forearms.Tin-Tin, he isnt fictional is he? [;-)]I remember them now!Abolition of taxe professionale.Abolition of social charges on heures supplementaire, not likely to be a success with the workshy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 The right wing Leon Blum of the 21st century is confusing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velcorin Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Nope, you've got me this time PPP. Blum was Jewish, Socialist and PM. Help me out, what have I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 [quote user="velcorin"]Nope, you've got me this time PPP. Blum was Jewish, Socialist and PM. Help me out, what have I missed?[/quote]The antithesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Was he the Belgian that invented the kitchen cabinet hinges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velcorin Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 This is getting a bit surreal. I wish I never mentioned Belgium.Officially Sarko is (medically) perfectly healthy. No comments on his mental health. http://www.francesoir.fr/politique-sante/sarkozy-va-bien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 [quote user="velcorin"]This is getting a bit surreal. I wish I never mentioned Belgium.[/quote]Audrey Hepburn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 [quote user="Chancer"][quote user="velcorin"] This is getting a bit surreal. I wish I never mentioned Belgium.[/quote]Audrey Hepburn?[/quote]Did she come from Belgium then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 SeeminglyEda Van Heemstra:Actress, philanthropist. Born on May 4, 1929, in Brussels, Belgium. A talented performer, Audrey Hepburn was known for her beauty, elegance, and grace. Often imitated, she remains one of Hollywood's greatest style icons. A native of Brussels, Hepburn spent part of her youth in England at a boarding school there. During much of World War II, she studied at the Arnhem Conservatory in The Netherlands. After the Nazis invaded the country, Hepburn and her mother struggled to survive. She reportedly helped the resistance movement by delivering messages, according to an article in The New York Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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