Frontier patrols FN style

[woolybanana]

Aided by various people and groups including a farmer who has gone to prison, groups of illegal immigrants have been slipping into France via one of the lower valley passes between France and Italy

Apparently, according to them, in respsonse, the Front National have set up their own border ‘patrols’ which meet these immigrants day or night and either call the gendarmes or simply direct them to the nearest cop shop.

The morality of allowing a fascist group to patrol the frontier, albeit voluntarily seems deeply suspicious as is the cynicism of the French State in letting it happen. One wonders what the gendarmes think of it

I suppose that the extreme left will now turn up and attempt to chase them off, causing a nice mountain flashpoint.

But doesnt this raise echoes of the milice during the 2WW which used to hunt down and capture Jews then hand them over for transportation? What next, I wonder?

[Harnser]

"What next, I wonder?"

The gendarmes could take over and do the job they are supposed to be doing?

[ebaynut]

W/B wrote,

groups of illegal immigrants have been slipping into France via one of the lower valley passes between France and Italy

Sounds like a good place for a Wall !! :-)

You would not leave your door unlocked at night, so anyone could enter illegally, so why should our governments leave the door to our ( in this case your) country open for people to enter illegally??

[Harnser]

"so why should our governments leave the door to our ( in this case your) country open for people to enter illegally??"

Possibly because the president of your/our country is a cheerleader for the EU and their policy of encouraging immigration from non-EU countries?

[woolybanana]

Walls work two ways, by the way; they may be built to keep one party out but they also keep one party in, creating a very non-productive and sterile attitude between the two. Witness the wall between the Palestinians and the Israelis.

Ebn, I should we take it that you are in favour of vigilante action, by the way?

[ebaynut]

W/B wrote.

Ebn, I should we take it that you are in favour of vigilante action, by the way?

Depends how you view it. Bit like the guy in London who was the main news in the UK a couple of weeks back, found someone in his kitchen in the middle of the night, ended up killing him.

Really pleasantly surprised the 'old bill' did not nick him. Am I in favour of his actions ?, 110%.

I guess as you don't have a long family history to one country, this is why you think there should be open borders.

[lindal1000]

I don't think anyone has successfully managed to secure borders in the mountain regions. They never managed in world war 2 and I doubt they'd manage now. Borders between countries in mainland Europe are flexible and temporary affairs, erected by politicians, but often of little relevance to the people who live closest to them. Ask people in Alsace, many of whom identify as German but are technically French. Or in the Italian Tyroll, where the 'Italians' feel as much Austrian as Italian.. or in Switzerland, where you can be German, French or Italian, or in Belgium where you are either Walloon or Flemish, or in Northern Spain and South West France where you are Basque/Catalan. (Or even in Ireland, which was once one country but now has a border along the top North Eastern part). What exactly are you defending and from who..?

I don't think the pensioner who killed the burglar was intending to do so.. unless you're particularly nasty having the death of another human being on your hands is not something most of us would chose. However I would agree that he had no choice but to defend himself and in those circumstances the difference between killing and wounding someone is very hard to judge. I shouldn't think he's sleeping peacefully anymore and that's the sad thing.