betise Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Anyone who falls into this category may already know, but for anyone who doesn't, those over 60 applying for French nationality after 1st April 2020 will no longer be exempt from the language exams. After 1st April these will comprise of an oral AND written component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just as well that I won't be applying then, I have enough trouble with English. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Houses prices in the Dordogne have just fallen. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I hadn't seen that mentioned, but in any case the oral interview is pretty demanding so it wasn't a case of people getting an easy ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessfou2 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Yes, my interview lasted almost 1.5 hours and I was talking for about 2/3 of that time. Not convinced that B1 level would have cut it.There was a dĂ©cret that crept out at the very end of last year : DĂ©cret n° 2019-1507 du 30 dĂ©cembre 2019 publiĂ© au JORF n°0303 du 31 dĂ©cembre 2019. https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000039696962&fastPos=1&fastReqId=1725525361&categorieLien=id&oldAction=rechTexteRelevant quotes:(1) rehaussement du niveau de langue exigĂ© pour les personnes souhaitant acquĂ©rir la nationalitĂ© française par naturalisation ...(2) le dĂ©cret entre en vigueur au 1er janvier 2020, Ă l'exception des dispositions relatives au rehaussement du niveau de langue, qui entrent en vigueur au 1er avril 2020.(3) Il modifie les articles 14 et 37 du dĂ©cret du 30 dĂ©cembre 1993, afin de rehausser, au niveau B1 tant oral qu'Ă©crit, le niveau de langue exigĂ© des personnes souhaitant acquĂ©rir la nationalitĂ© française par naturalisation, ... Il supprime Ă©galement les dispenses autres que celles prĂ©vues par la loi (...) pour ne laisser subsister qu'une seule dispense pour les personnes dont l'Ă©tat de santĂ© dĂ©ficient chronique ou le handicap rend toute Ă©valuation linguistique impossible. Cette incompatibilitĂ© sera constatĂ©e par un certificat mĂ©dical.So it seems that (from 1 April 2020) 'il supprime' la 'dispense' for those 'Ă¢gĂ©es d'au moins soixante ans'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Thanks for that link. I am past that stage as you are, but I have friends who are thinking of applying and it is good to have the correct source:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessfou2 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Yes, we're almost half way through the average wait for SDANF to complete. If I'm not mistaken, congratulations are due on your new status, finally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 For crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betise Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 What's your problem ALF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I think that ALBF 's name says it all, 'a little bit french', which is like me, not french. just some things get integrated into 'my' life at least over the years, I suspect never to leave me now.As I said I couldn't do it, and unless someone feels completely french I cannot get my head around why they would do it. But 'my' not getting my head around things is nothing new to me......... I do not understand lots of things in this life either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Well yes Idun. Exactly.You can be ALBF without the nationality. I am....ALBF.I have lived in France over half my life...but I am not French. I am lost as to why people want to get French citizenship...unless it is for administration. Which is just hypocrisy. Are you French ? NO.Are you British ? Yes.Acquiring French nationality ain't going to change that. Like I have said many times, go and live in banlieue and tell me if you want to be French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 And that is how I feel about it. Even now I have spent over half my adult life in France, and stuff just rubbed off on me, which all too often puts me at odds with my friends and family here.Even if we had changed our minds and decided to stay, then I still could not have applied for french nationality, I am not french and never ever will be.ALBF I am just going to PM you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessfou2 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I'm sure I have seen ALBF & idun going on about this before. You don't want French citizenship - no problem, you don't have to apply. Those who do, they have all sorts of reasons, some of which surely never occurred to you.Me, although a pacifist who would not go near the armed forces, I'm following in the footsteps of one of my ancestors who acquired French nationality in the 1770s (Louis XIV, shortly before his death brought in a law that foreigners spending 10 years+ in the French army acquired nationality). He had a great career, albeit unsuccessful in the siege of Gibraltar, he played an important role in kicking the English out of Menorca by succeeding with the siege of Mahon and rose to the rank of general. For him, that was nationality #2, for me it will be #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I am pretty sure that most reasons have occurred to me to be honest. And antecedents was certainly one, sure I have already used that word about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 @ chessfou2The question is, how many citizenships do you need ?One is enough...no ?Being British in France is not so bad.Where we live we are surrounded by migrants, immigrants, asylum seekers call them what you like. They would love to have a citizenship. Somewhere to belong too.I am happy in that respect to have one.Apart from administration, I really don't see the point of applying for French citizenship.Life ain't going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 [quote user="alittlebitfrench"]@ chessfou2The question is, how many citizenships do you need ?One is enough...no ?Being British in France is not so bad.Where we live we are surrounded by migrants, immigrants, asylum seekers call them what you like. They would love to have a citizenship. Somewhere to belong too.I am happy in that respect to have one.Apart from administration, I really don't see the point of applying for French citizenship.Life ain't going to change.[/quote]ALBF. Once more I find myself agreeing with you.This has to stop [:-))] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 My class of French retirés hoping-to-improve their long-ago-acquired-English used to comment loud and long that I should take French nationality. I defended myself regularly.I am English, though now having lived in France for almost 15 years I have no thought to return to the UK. Even so taking another nationality .. albeit in tandem .. renders me uneasy.My OH does not have my capability in French .. so how would it be if I gained French nationality and my OH did not .. not too pleasant a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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