Andymr Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Hi Guys Below is my attempt at translating an email I wish to send to all the regional motor sports associations.Comments on translation please as brutal as you like! I have just moved to the Dordogne from Angleterre. J’ai enmenagee recenment en Dordogne d’Angleterre. I would like to take part in Course de Cote in France as a ‘Demonstration’ pilot. Je voudrais participer au course de cote en Francequi un pilote “demonstration” I have an MSA National ‘A’ licence and 5 years experience in “course de cote” in the UK. J’ai un MSA national ‘A’ licence et 5 anneesexperience de course de cote en Angleterre. Would I be able to take part in any of your Course de Cotes during 2007? Est-ce possible pour moi participer dans des votre courses de cote en 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysatis Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Hi Andymr,I'm am no expert in the French language but thought I would give you what I would write as maybe a starting point but I'm sure there are more people here that have more of a grasp of french and you may possibly want to hang on for a few more replies before sending your letter.J'ai (juste, récemment) démenagé dans la Dordogne d'Angleterre.Je voudrais participer à Course de Cotes en France comme de « démonstration »J'ai un Permis du National MSA 'A' et cinq ans d'expérience de Course de Cote au Royaume-Uni.Est-ce que je pourrais participer à la Course de Cotes pendant 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymr Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 4/10 for my effort then?[:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysatis Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 No, not at all, don't be so hard on yourself, my translation might be worse than yours. Like I said, I have no real skill at this language. I would say 8/10. We might both be corrected quite considerably by someone who is more knowledgable. I'm sure with what you wrote would have been understood as I only changed a few things. Like I suggested, hang on and see if you have a few more responses that's if you can spare a few days before sending your letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 [quote user="Andymr"] Hi Guys, Below is my attempt at translating an email I wish to send to all the regional motor sports associations.Comments on translation please as brutal as you like![/quote]You've actually got it just about right between the two of you! This is a slighltly more fluent version:I have just moved to the Dordogne from Angleterre.Je viens de l'Angleterre et j'ai récemment aménagé en Dordogne.I would like to take part in Course de Cote in France as a ‘Demonstration’ pilot.Je voudrais participer à des courses de côte en France comme pilote de démonstration.I have an MSA National ‘A’ licence and 5 years experience in “course de cote” in the UK.J’ai un permis de l'Association anglaise des sports automobiles et 5 ans d'experience en course de côte en Angleterre.Would I be able to take part in any of your Course de Cotes during 2007?Me sera-t-il possible de participer à vos courses de côte en 2007?Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I can't improve on your French but what is 'Course de Cote' ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 [quote user="Pierre ZFP"]I can't improve on your French but what is 'Course de Cote' ??[/quote]Hillclimb... See here and here for more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Andy, I am sure you must have seen this, but just in case, here is a copy of the form you need to get a racing license in Francehttp://www.ffsa.org/pratiquer/reglements2006/formulaire_licence.pdfAlso, everything you need to know about motor racing in France is on herehttp://www.ffsa.org/index.phpIncluding all e-mail addresses of local federations etc. btw. you'll find it's referred to as "Montagne" on here, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymr Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Thanks cooperola, however as I return to dear old blighty to compete in in a hillclimb championship every year, I cannot have a french licence whilst holding a National UK licence.However I can guest at quite a few French events on my UK licence, I'm looking for more 'demonstration' events hence email question.Rediculous situation don't you think as were supposed to be in the EU!Andy[8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjlaws Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 [quote user="Andymr"]Thanks cooperola, however as I return to dear old blighty to compete in in a hillclimb championship every year, I cannot have a french licence whilst holding a National UK licence.However I can guest at quite a few French events on my UK licence, I'm looking for more 'demonstration' events hence email question.Rediculous situation don't you think as were supposed to be in the EU!Andy[8-)][/quote]Andy- It's not a ridiculous situation. You can compete in French National events using your MSA UK National A licence (See FFSA Reglement Generale, Prescription Generale, Participations, Etrangers - IV C), just as French and other EC nationals can compete in UK events authorised by the MSA.If you can't find the appropriate regulation, please PM me and I'll send you a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 This is right, it is on pages 11 and 12 of this documenthttp://www.ffsa.org/pratiquer/reglements2006/generale.pdfso there is some entente cordiale after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymr Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 This is great news, I have read the regs.However from another source I understand that a lot of clubs cannot afford the extra cost involved for insurance for visiters as it is quite expensive.French licence holders have insurance built in.This is the reason I wish to contact the various regional associations to see how many will let me run in the numerous course de cotes across the country.If a climb is near a border ie in Brittany they tend to be set up for visitors and invite guests as so called 'demonstrators'.I really hope i'm wrong as I want to do at least a dozen events here next year.Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Best of luck, Andy, hope it all helps you to get the response you need. I used to go to the Harewood hillclimbs on a regular basis when I was a nipper. Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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