Julia Roberts " Au Naturel" !

[Frenchie]

This could be a good translation exercise for the ones of you who study French ..

Surprising, innit?? [blink]

Julia Roberts se préfère au naturel

L'actrice américaine sait surprendre son monde. On se souvient tous de la première londonienne de Notting Hill, en 1999, où elle était apparue avec des poils sous les aisselles.
Julia Roberts en remet une couche en n'affirmant n'avoir jamais recours aux déodorants pour contribuer à la protection de l'environnement.
Elle utilise un bon vieux savon et un peu d'huile de coude pour venir à bout des odeurs les plus récalcitrantes.
L'actrice a fait cette révélation sur le plateau d'Oprah Winfrey : "Je ne mets jamais de déo. Je n'aime pas trop raconter ça aux gens, mais cela n'a jamais été mon truc".
Julia Roberts précise quand même qu'elle prend toujours le temps de faire un brin de toilette à midi lorsqu'elle tourne.

Elle vous toujours autant fantasmer messieurs?? [:D][:D][:D]

[Cjlaws]

Which bit is surprising, or particularly interesting? -

That she didn't shave her armpits for the London première of Notting Hill?

That she doesn't use deodorants, but uses soap and elbow grease instead to help save the planet?

That she appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show?

That she has a wash and brush up at midday when she's filming?

[Simone]

So what, hardly interesting news and her choice. There are lots that do the same here, whenever you're out and about BO is never far from your nasal passages. I will admit, I thought it was because of the cost of deodorants or something, not because they were trying to save the planet.

[Frenchie]

No need to be agressive..

To me it was surprising from an American star to go to a premiere without shaving her armpits before and confessing she did not use deodorant either..

 I thought  Brits and Americans thought it was disgusting to do so..

 Apparently, I was wrong.. If it is seen as PC then .. fair enough!  

Maybe she s trying to launch a new trend after all..  [;-)]

[Dick Smith]

There's a lot to be said for 'au naturel'.

[Monika]

I think the English and Americans are obsessed about it and I think it is good that she makes a stand and perhaps even succeeds to make it a "fashion statement". In the film Titanic there was a shot of a pencil drawing with a Lady with hairy armpits, and half the cinema errupted in cries of disgust, admittedly they were quite young.

[Tressy]

[quote user="Frenchie"]No need to be agressive.. [/quote]

Ooooh! Who got deleted for being norty and 'agressive' in this thread? Blimey, I was only gone for a couple of hours!

Hurrah for Ms Roberts and Dick Smith! There's not a lot wrong with a bit of sweat, as long as it's reasonably fresh - and I speak as a quite legendary (in my own lifetime) sweaty doglet type of gal![:D]

 

 

 

[Jacqui Too]

[quote user="Monika"]I think the English and Americans are obsessed about it......[/quote]

Well I must say I am English and I would not call myself obsessed, I remove my underarm hair when I need to, that's when I wear sleeveless tops, that's not very often in thees cold days, I do it for me, the same as if I were wearing a swimsuit I would make sure I had no embarrassing b**h showing!! all a matter of personal choice.

As for deodorant isn't that another name for perfume! well I never say no to a little Channel no.5 [:P]

[Clarkkent]

Julia Roberts' armpits:

Interesting foray into social norms and culture. My understanding is that the general defoliation of armpits began when the Gillette company found that the market for razors was saturated and decided to try to sell them to women as well as men. They invented the social disease of  "unsightly hair" and ran with it. I think that it caught on in the 1950/60s in Britain and in continental Europe rather later. Hairy armpits are now regarded as "unhygienic" but I know of no epidemics caused by them.

It is now my belief (based on scant evidence) that defoliation of genitals is becoming common. If so, this seems to be driven by the porn industry, whose employees remove hair to enable customers to see whatever it is they want to look at more clearly. I find it distasteful that a potential definition of "normal behaviour" should have been defined in this way.

I'm with Dick Smith here. Axillary and pubic hair is a normal sign of sexual maturity. Removal of this hair could be interpreted as another attempt to infantalise the female body.

 

 

[Dick Smith]

It is the infantilisation aspect which concerns me most. Alongside improbably augmented breasts - a very strange idea of women.

[Frenchie]

Yes, all this is true, but I wouldn't feel good with hairy armpits .. and deodorant is just a habit after a morning shower..

Very convenient .

If we follow the reasoning, then  should we also stop waxing our legs?? [blink]  

[Jacqui Too]

[quote user="Dick Smith"]It is the infantilisation aspect which concerns me most.

[/quote]

I'm sorry Dick but if men/women on seeing a women with no visible hair poking out from armpits and 'other' areas makes them think of little girls then I think it is they that have the problem.

It was men who started removing unwanted hair I believe!

 

[chirpy]

What about the hairy ears and nostils???????????????????????

not so much on the women as they have their head of hair over their ears ---but men with long  and thick hair coming out of their nose or ears is a little disgusting in my opininon -unless they join ends and call it a moustache.

 

p.s.Not many women with moustaches ---thank god!!!!!!!!!!!![:P][6][:D]

[Christine Animal]

Because we shave them off !   [geek]

 

[Dick Smith]

[quote user="Jacqui Too "]

[quote user="Dick Smith"]It is the infantilisation aspect which concerns me most.

[/quote]

I'm sorry Dick but if men/women on seeing a women with no visible hair poking out from armpits and 'other' areas makes them think of little girls then I think it is they that have the problem.

It was men who started removing unwanted hair I believe!

 

[/quote]

That is precisely what some men see, according to some psychologists. I don't really understand this post, as it seems that you are saying what Clark and I were saying and then being antsy about it...

The point about men removing hair in this context is irrelevent.

[Jacqui Too]

[quote user="Dick Smith"]

That is precisely what some men see, according to some psychologists. I don't really understand this post, as it seems that you are saying what Clark and I were saying and then being antsy about it...

The point about men removing hair in this context is irrelevent.
[/quote]

No. I am saying the opposite to you and Clark, I think women should be able to 'groom' themselves in which ever way they want without men/women thinking that they are trying to make them selves appear child like. its not the 'groomed' women's problem!

And my comment regarding men removing hair was harking back to the fact that it was you two men (I think Clark is a man) think it better for women to be 'Au Naturel' if that were the case why are the majority of men clean shaven, because probably they think beards makes them appear old and unkept, plus its a real turn off for most women[+o(]

 

[chris pp]

Pheromones.[:D]

Chris

[Jacqui Too]

[quote user="chris pp"]

Pheromones.[:D]

Chris

[/quote]

You've Lost me[blink]

But there again some men look better with age [8-)]

[Dick Smith]

[quote user="Jacqui Too "]

[quote user="Dick Smith"]

That is precisely what some men see, according to some psychologists. I don't really understand this post, as it seems that you are saying what Clark and I were saying and then being antsy about it...

The point about men removing hair in this context is irrelevent.

[/quote]

No. I am saying the opposite to you and Clark, I think women should be able to 'groom' themselves in which ever way they want without men/women thinking that they are trying to make them selves appear child like. its not the 'groomed' women's problem!

And my comment regarding men removing hair was harking back to the fact that it was you two men (I think Clark is a man) think it better for women to be 'Au Naturel' if that were the case why are the majority of men clean shaven, because probably they think beards makes them appear old and unkept, plus its a real turn off for most women[+o(]

 

[/quote]

Oh dear...

[Russethouse]

I can't be most women then - Mr RH actually has a full head of hair and a proper beard.....in fact I have known him over 30 years and have only once seen him without a beard.

I don't think it makes him look old either, my much younger neighbour told me she thought he looked too 'fresh' to be the age he actually is....[:)]

[Clarkkent]

I have to confess that I am a man and a clean shaven one, too. And I agree that women have a perfect right to present themselves in anyway they wish.

The point that I was trying to make earlier is that the removal of hair from women's armpits was driven by a commercial company which cleverly insinuated that such hair was unpleasant to look at. This was done to increase a razor manufacturer's profits, not to benefit womankind. The company's campaign was so succesful that women the world over now regard such hair as shameful. Armpit hair is a natural consequence of physical maturity, therefore its absence is a sign of pre-maturity. Natural signs of sexual maturity are being replaced by sanitised, homogenised, industrialised signals which are marketed to make women feel anxious and corporations profitable. Advertising is used to distort people's views of what is normal.

The lack of axillary hair is not the only way in which commercial interests try to infantalise women. Magazines are full of pictures of women on catwalks who are unnaturally thin and "waif like".

The fashion industry seems organised specifically to make women feel bad about themselves. The cosmetics industry makes products which encourage women to believe they can disguise their age.

I remember Julia Roberts' appearance at the premiere of "Notting Hill" and the subsequent attacks by the self-appointed fashion experts. I think that she was being rather brave not to behave like the rest of the herd. It was her body, her choice.

[Russethouse]

Deodorant works better on armpits that have been shaved and I think that practical consideration, especially in these days of over heated shops, offices and sometimes homes has a significant bearing on the matter....

[Jacqui Too]

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone over my comments regarding beards, I was only trying to prove my point that it was men who started removing unwanted hair and their possible reasons, my last comment was my own personal view after experiencing an accidental kiss with a man with a beard[:-))]

I was a little surprised about miss Roberts 'au Natural' look after seeing her interviewed on TV once when she was totally embarrassed about her bushy eye brows when she first started making films, I think it may have been 'peter pan' and she said ' why didn't some one tell me how awful they were'.

[Dick Smith]

Well, as a beardie I found it pretty offensive, but then I suppose I was meant to.

I am just worried that you don't seem to have understood what ClarkK and I were saying, simply went into a rant.

[Russethouse]

Lets face it, if we dressed to protect ourselves from the workings of every mans imagination, healthy or otherwise, we'd probably end up wearing sacks - I think what JT was saying is that while it may be true, it is their problem, not ours.