Patf Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Sorry if that sounds rather corny. I tried to find a thread which was on here some time ago and it seems to have gone, or I was imagining it (very likely.) Started by an old literary.member who doesn't post any more. Anyway: I was reminded of this one when reading about the plans to commemorate the start of WW1:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Meeting_%28poem%29It was one of the poems we learnt about when I was doing A level english, and left a lasting impression on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I have to cite the one from which my signature is taken:http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/172062 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitway Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 the boy stood on the burning deckhis pocket full of crackersone went off between his legsand blew off both his knac*** :) , I'll get may coat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 That's an old one pitway [:D]In the same class as :"Life presents a gloomy picture......." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommier Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I`ve always liked a lot of the WW1 poets and Dolce et Decorum est has to be one of my favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Pommier, I have an anthology of war poems which I treasure.Can't help but love the well-known ones: Grey's "Elergy", McCrae's "In Flanders Fields" ( which I found very touching writ large on the wall in the war museum at Ypres) but here is my favourite for the word pictures:Arthur Graeme West "Night Patrol"......oops, sorry, can't post it. Clearly must get the new computer working!Someone, please post it; just the words because I don't really like anyone else reading it aloud other than myself......[geek] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Beasley Street. John Cooper Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Oh Betty, that's a bit too ...REAL [:(]Now I shall always think of it as "Beastly Street"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiseau Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Gosh, Sweets, I just looked up the Arthur Graeme West poem. It illuminates the horror of carrying out those night patrols - about which I have read in battalion war diaries. As a result I also looked up Arthur Graeme West's own war diary, which is very interesting. He was very disillusioned with religion, and with cheerfully gung-ho attitudes of some fellow officers.I am currently reading "Memoirs of a Fox-hunting Man" by Siegfried Sassoon, another whose war poetry would include my favourite pieces.Angela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 [quote user="sweet 17"]Oh Betty, that's a bit too ...REAL [:(]Now I shall always think of it as "Beastly Street"![/quote]You'll be grateful, Sweets, that I didn't cite some of his other poems as among my favourites..which they are, but Beasley Street is a classic. "I wanna be yours"...is on the GCSE syllabus. I suppose the Keats lovers among the forum's readership will have attacks of the vapours but JCC's poems - especially as recited by the man himself - are as clever an insight into life in the 20th century as much that has gone before. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 [quote user="Loiseau"]Gosh, Sweets, I just looked up the Arthur Graeme West poem. It illuminates the horror of carrying out those night patrols - about which I have read in battalion war diaries. As a result I also looked up Arthur Graeme West's own war diary, which is very interesting. He was very disillusioned with religion, and with cheerfully gung-ho attitudes of some fellow officers. I am currently reading "Memoirs of a Fox-hunting Man" by Siegfried Sassoon, another whose war poetry would include my favourite pieces. Angela[/quote]Angela, I am so glad the poem "speaks" to you. It's just so graphic and engages all your senses, your sight, your smell, your touch, your hearing and even your taste when it finishes in that unexpected, banal and matter-of-fact way about the rum ration. After all the horrors, normality of a sort?I particularly like the description of the corn stalks because, of course, the crops were unharvested during the war as the men were away fighting.I expect you have visited the war museum in Ypres. The reconstruction there of No Man's Land gives such shock to the senses of the desolation. When I visited, there was a special exhibition of water-colours done by a German officer. He was capturing in his notebooks the scenes, often of destruction, that lay before his eyes. He was no mean artist and it gave me a sense, as nothing else had done, of war being cruel to both sides; no winners, only losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiseau Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yes, i had never thought about the corn being unharvested till I read this. Having to find your way back by picking certain remains to recognise.... How could anybody return to normal civilian life after that kind of experience.Yes, I have visited the museums in Ypres and Zonnebecke, but also the Historial de la Grande Guerre at Péronne where there is a horrific series of engravings by Otto Dix depicting very much what the poet is saying. Some of the older WW1 museums in France and Belgium still have the stereoscopic viewers that include some truly ghastly photographic images.Angela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote user="sweet 17"]I particularly like the description of the corn stalks because, of course, the crops were unharvested during the war as the men were away fighting.[/quote]I've been thinking about this all night. If the crops were unharvested because all the men were away at war, who planted them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Betty - the poem says the cornstalks were 2 years old, so planted before the farmers went off to war.What a tragic poem, never heard of West before, but I have read some of Seigfried Sassoon's poetry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 John Keats, when facing death from consumption:When I have fears that I may cease to beBefore my pen has glean'd my teeming brain,Before high-piled books, in charact'ry,Hold like rich garners the full-ripen'd grain;When I behold, upon the night's starr'd face,Huge cloudy symbols of a high romance,And think that I may never live to traceTheir shadows, with the magic hand of chance;And when I feel, fair creature of an hour!That I shall never look upon thee more,Never have relish in the faery powerOf unreflecting love!—then on the shoreOf the wide world I stand alone, and thinkTill Love and Fame to nothingness do sink.And also, la Belle Dame sans merci - The beautiful woman who doesn't say "Thank you" (Flanders & Swann) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote user="Patf"]Betty - the poem says the cornstalks were 2 years old, so planted before the farmers went off to war.What a tragic poem, never heard of West before, but I have read some of Seigfried Sassoon's poetry.[/quote]D'oh... Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Another sort of grim reality:http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/178058 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmcn Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 the boy stood on the burning deckhis feet were full of blistershe climbed aloft, his pants burned offand now he wears his sisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmcn Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 My grandfather is buried in an American WW1 cemetery near Verdun in France.David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 More romantic: Someone gave me a book of Shakespeare's sonnets as a wedding present, with this one marked:http://www.shakespeare-online.com/sonnets/116.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 There is a wide range of attitudes expressed in the Sonnets:I am glad that this one wasn't bookmarked (although it has always been a favourite of mine for its honest acceptance that all isn't always perfect)"O, love's best habit is in seeming trust"http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/sonnet-138-when-my-love-swears-that-she-is-made/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommier Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote user="NormanH"]Another sort of grim reality:http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/178058[/quote]Although I enjoyed reading this poem, it's a bit depressing - not one to dwell on if alone. I liked Betty's `I wanna be yours` I bet that's popular with kids studying GCSE and better/more relevant than the poetry studied when I was at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommier Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote user="NormanH"]Another sort of grim reality:http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/178058[/quote]Although I enjoyed reading this poem, it's a bit depressing - not one to dwell on if alone. I liked Betty's `I wanna be yours` I bet that's popular with kids studying GCSE and better/more relevant than the poetry studied when I was at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 [quote user="NormanH"]Another sort of grim reality:http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/178058[/quote]Strangely enough, I don't find that grim at all.I'm much more aghast at living forever than at dying.Pommier, tell me how you have managed to write on the Forum using your new computer?Mine seems to let me "read only", no replying to anybody's post and certainly no email account sorted out as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Not a poem related to WW1 but 'High Flight' does it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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