londoneye Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I am looking for a Magnolia which flowers in summer, rather than spring, and which will flower within a couple of years of purchase. Of course I understand it depends on the size you buy, but I am prepared to buy something reasonably large. I have been on internet today - French and English sites and can't seem to find one which fits my 'wish list'. I can find one or other of criteria but seemingly not both. However, there are so many varieties that I am wondering if I have missed some, and what I want does exist.Does anyone have any ideas ? Size is immaterial, as in final size - can be as large as you like !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracteurtom Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 We have a magnificent specimin of a Magnolia, must be many years oldand its normally spring flowering, but this year, with the queer weather,its having another go and its in partial flower now !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 I've always wanted one, but never had a large enough garden in UK, so now seems my chance. I know there are summer flowering varieties now, but the one which took my fancy was going to take 10 years to flower, and I am just not sure I will be here to enjoy it (in France I mean, not on earth !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 This isn't going to help much, but...I've a summer flowering variety, we only planted it last year, and it flowered this summer. I just went outside (dodging the torrential rain) to check, but it's lost its little white label, so I can't tell you the variety. The only thing I can say is that the magnolias that flower in spring tend to be deciduous, where the summer flowering ones keep their leaves all year round.The virginiana flowers in June, July, August and September though, so that might be the kind of thing to look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Is it MAGNOLIA sieboldii ? They have several here http://www.junker.co.uk/magnolia51.htmAny good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisymay Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Magnolia grandiflora. It is evergreen and has large, fragrant flowers in summer. However It takes years to get to a good size and the "fragrance" is a bit limited in my opinion. I have a very big one in my garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yes, the Grandiflora was the one I really liked, but then after further research (Royal Horticultural Society site I think), I found that it could take up to 10 years to flower.Looked at the sieboldii also, which I quite like, but thought this one also took quite some time to flower.Cat, thanks for going out in the rain (is there anywhere where it is not raining right now?). If you come back to this post, could you do me a favour and look at Russethouse's link and see if that is the Magnolia in your garden (if it stops raining !). If it is, could you let me know what sort of size it was when you bought it please, as I can only seem to find quite a small version of the tree in France at moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I've looked at photos of all the magnolia's mentioned in this thread, and my tree looks most like the grandiflora , based mostly on the fact that the undersides of the leaves are a bit on the brownish side, it has huge flowers with big cone-shaped stamens, it flowers in the summer, and it is evergreen.Some sites do say that it can take up to 10 years to flower, but if you do as we did, and buy a small tree already in bud, you really can't go far wrong, IMHO.When we bought ours it was between 4 and 5 feet high. We bought it from the local pepinerist (sp ???), so they shouldn't be too hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Note we live in Haute Vienne near Coussac Bonneval and as most people found plants/flowering seasons all adrift.!!!!!!!!!!!!!Almost everything is flowering 3-4 weeks earlier.Magnolia sieboldii is a decidious shrub/tree--wide spreading -height4.8metres/5.12metres wide.Has cup shaped flowers,crimson anthers and flowers in late spring to late autumn.most pepinieres will order if not in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Ab - you are a neighbour (almost!)I didn't meet you at a local fete Sunday past did I ? With your husband and dog ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Cat - thanks - missed your response for a minute; will go to local 'tree place' (I can't spell it either) and see what they have as I guess its just about tree selling time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llwyncelyn Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Londoneye, will your soil support the needs of a magnolia? acid neutral or whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Hmmm not too sure what kind of soil we have to be honest. Haven't seen any Magnolias in near vicinity, but then again most people seem to get all their plants and trees from neighbours, so unsurprisingly all gardens seem to have identical plants/trees in ...What other sorts of plants grow in same soil as Magnolia, and I can tell you if I have any, which are growing fine, or have seen any locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Camellia, Azalea, Rhododendron......Soil testing kits are quite cheap though, might be worth checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have a rhodie which is growing very well, and most of neighbours have azaleas.So, should be ok then ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Well since I have no husband but a wife and cat the answer is no!! which fete ?Actually I am the one fingered typist( almost computer literate) and my wife the garden expert .She is secretary of a garden club if you are interested which meets again in september at jumilhac le grande .We ave french dutch and english members and it meets montly wed.evening and arranges talks and garden visits.If you are interested to visit the meeting and our garden then send me a private message.We have been here7 years and have an english style garden .My interest is sitting on lawn mower as I am not knowledgable to be left in the garden without pulling up what I thought were weeds and quickly removed them from the compost heap when informed they were honeysuckle.With current weather I think every one will be building ponds as they are easier to manage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Wasn't you then !!! Sorry, for some reason I always assume that people on this site are female - no idea why I do that.The fete was local to me, around 20 minutes from you, but the couple we met came from just outside Coussac.Agree ref ponds; we constantly run out to see if our new swimming pool is over-flowing (thank god i am not in England or that would be seen as bragging).Thank you for the information ref garden club; I would be interested, if time-permits. Will see how things go and pm you if it looks like I might have any free time. Unfortunately, got to start pointing the other side of our barn soon; oh if only I could do the gardening instead !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 At least weeding is easy to do when ground is wet !you could put up a movable tent or rig up plastic sheet on poles.-I DON,T WANT TO HEAR YOUR EXCUSES!We also have pool but with little use this year -perhap I will make a fish pond out of it!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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