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[quote user="Cendrillon"]Whatever next!

[I]Maybe B&B owners could insist that their clients have the alcohol testing gadget for drivers and be forced to use those to check their alcohol intake.

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and wear a high viz vest when decanting a bottle of red   How much is served on the  training course ?

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Trying to find all the information on this is a jightmare because it is appendixes to loads of different laws. However I found this bit of it which seems to indicate that you only need this if you sell alchohol between 22:00 and 08:00.

http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do;jsessionid=2AD2FBC9D04E41135ADAE8FC1716B035.tpdjo10v_1?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006072665&idArticle=LEGIARTI000006688026&dateTexte=&categorieLien=cid

It wold be nice if somebody produced all this in plain French.

 

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I was talking to somebody about this yesterday evening (our local Clévances group) and many felt that this is driven by the restaurateurs just as the compulsory registration was by the hoteliers. Apparently Cdh's have been taking business from them because people can eat and drink with no driving. Well this may be true but not in every case where there are restaurants nearby. They also claim that they have to receive paid for training so why shouldn't Cdh owners which actually to a point I can see the logic in. When times get tough some groups blame their loss of business on others. Perhaps they should look at the amount of Cdh's for sale in France then then might understand that in reality we are all in the same boat.

Where they and us Cdh owners, along with the small hotel owners, should be going is to the Department of Tourism. As their income has dropped in the number of sources they in turn have raised their charges and tax, perhaps they should be pressurised in to more advertising on TV etc both at home in other countries rather than pay out loads of money in salaries for functionaires that do little of nothing for ten months of the year.

Peoples pockets are only so deep and if the government keep taxing us more and more we will finally reach the bottom of our pockets, there will be no more to give and Cdh's and small hotels will cease to exist which could signal the death of French tourism. The current French president is like a fella who is ruled by his prick and not by his head but then that seems the norm in European politics these days.

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When I read the link that the OP posted, it just felt like a poisson d'avril prank. Very strange indeed.

I don't think that the governments in either country think that many have deep pockets, just having pockets with a few sou in them is enough for the greed xxstds to want it....... as Gollum would say.... 'we wants it, we needs it'.
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[quote user="idun"]When I read the link that the OP posted, it just felt like a poisson d'avril prank. Very strange indeed.

I don't think that the governments in either country think that many have deep pockets, just having pockets with a few sou in them is enough for the greed xxstds to want it....... as Gollum would say.... 'we wants it, we needs it'.
[/quote]The trouble is that the electorate want lots of government services but don't want/can't afford to pay for it. Because elected politicians want to be re=elected they have to finf new ways of raising the money when they can't borrow it.
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Sorry but peoples pockets are not infinitely deep and tax is rising almost by the week in some form or another and the people it hits the most are just ordinary people trying to make a living. Trouble is politicians living in their ivory towers who are 'comfortably off' are not affected by these taxes. To them it is just a little prick rather than a punch on the nose.

But if we can hang on another few years the socialists will be out, never to return for many years. Problem is we will all have to dig deeper to pay off the debts they leave behind. Watching the rugby today with my French socialist friends they are all very disappointed with Hollande, he has not delivered and many poor in France are hurting badly. Interesting to note they actually prefer Sarkozy to Hollande because they "always knew he was a cheat but at least we knew where we stood", some even compare him to De Gaulle, it is hard, though not impossible, to find a hole in their argument.

Back on subject, follow the links in the OP's post, it is not a joke. What I would like to know is how am I (and others) supposed to find 7 hours in one week at the start of the peak season to attend a course and what will be the cost?

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Q wrote :

What I would like to know is how am I (and others) supposed to find 7

hours in one week at the start of the peak season to attend a course and

what will be the cost?

You  could always play them at their own game .Wait for them to write to you .Take an age to reply. When at last  you get the date have a bad back and ask for another.. Before you know it the season is over for another year and give you time to think up another complaint ... The paperwork will be in  the system they will appreciate that I am sure
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It's much, much simpler to get your money from the non-unionised. Especially in France.

You shouldn't have to pay for the course, surely? It'll come out of your DIF, and you've been paying for it in your cotisations, I guess..Even auto entrepreneurs pay for it.

[url]http://www.apce.com/pid6121/droits-et-obligations.html[/url]

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[quote user="You can call me Betty"]I'd check your contributions, Quillan, but I don't think you're exempt from CFP.
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I don't even know what CFP is, I just know what we pay and to whom which is CSG/CRDS once a year to the Tresor Public.

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[quote user="Quillan"]Sorry but peoples pockets are not infinitely deep and tax is rising almost by the week in some form or another and the people it hits the most are just ordinary people trying to make a living. Trouble is politicians living in their ivory towers who are 'comfortably off' are not affected by these taxes. To them it is just a little prick rather than a punch on the nose.

But if we can hang on another few years the socialists will be out, never to return for many years. Problem is we will all have to dig deeper to pay off the debts they leave behind.[/quote]

Well, reading between the lines of this article in Midi Libre, what the govt seems to be saying is that they want you to pay more, and for longer ...

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Watching the rugby today with my French socialist friends they are all very disappointed with Hollande, he has not delivered

The poor chap has only been there just under a year and has to cope with the legacy of the last three presidents misrule.

To expect instant results is  as if the Tories stopped blaming Gordon Brown for their mismanagement of the UK economy

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