Mr Coeur de Lion Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I'd forgotten about HADOPPY. Have they caught anyone yet? What's the projected capture rate again? Wasn't it something like 50k a year? By the time they capture everyone, France would have had another revolution and the law put on the scrap heap where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSKS Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 CdL - we live in hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osie Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I was speaking on the phone to a guy (representitve for devolo.com) to buy some CPL's. He said there is a device which costs 600€~ which can monitor all internet activity and is the (legal) way you can monitor internet searches. I decided against it based on the 600€ and the chance of a guests getting me into trouble. However, this is an option to look into.osie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I don't know what "is the (legal) way you can monitor internet searches" is meant to mean. If it's your connection you are perfectly entitled to monitor any and all usage of it by whomever. Guests can have no expectation of privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimportequoi Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 [quote user="euro"]Is WIFI internet becoming a must have for guests ? Thanks[/quote]It isn't becoming a must have, it is a must have and has been for a couple of years. You can use a system like open DNS to restrice usage of certain websites if you are worried about downloading. I never haveas I don't want to restrict my usage and I'm use the same router as the guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 [quote user="Nimportequoi"][quote user="euro"]Is WIFI internet becoming a must have for guests ? Thanks[/quote] it is a must have and has been for a couple of years. [/quote]This is the first year my poll results have indicated it is now requested. As I don't yet have it but have 90% booking for this summer there are plenty of people who prefer the pool to the internet and most smart phones receive email without issue so is browsing so important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSKS Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 There are plently of sad geeky nerds out there who seem to be surgically attached to their laptops and like nothing better than 'net surfing all holiday or spending hours on internet forums........................Ummmm....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Quite...We had a family with two teen-boys who spent most of their fortnight indoors glued to their laptops [8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I blame the parents [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osie Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 By legal.. I meant that it is a requirement to register who is accessing your internet and this tool was a way to do that...I guess it is a box that registers all connections to the internet.side note: Most hotels I have been to have a log in to get onto the internet... maybe it is possible to set your router to show a login screen and then to save the information to a database... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimportequoi Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote user="Théière"][quote user="Nimportequoi"][quote user="euro"]Is WIFI internet becoming a must have for guests ? Thanks[/quote] it is a must have and has been for a couple of years. [/quote]This is the first year my poll results have indicated it is now requested. As I don't yet have it but have 90% booking for this summer there are plenty of people who prefer the pool to the internet and most smart phones receive email without issue so is browsing so important?[/quote]I am 98% full in all three gites from April to September, maybe it is because of the free wifi;) The pool helps of course.3G doesn't work inside my gites (thick granite walls) and anyway it is very expensive abroad - I have an iphone and it costs lots to surf the internet when I go to the UK, even with the special Orange abroad package. People don't just use the internet for work, but also recipes, things to do in the local area, everything really. Free internet access would be indispensable to me so that is why I offer it to my guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I make that in excess of 35 holiday fortnights x the average family of 2 + 2 kids giving a total of 140 individuals so the question is how confident are you that not a single one of those guest or their 'orrible offspring will abuse your WiFi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote user="Nimportequoi"][quote user="Théière"] [quote user="Nimportequoi"][quote user="euro"]Is WIFI internet becoming a must have for guests ? Thanks[/quote] it is a must have and has been for a couple of years. [/quote]This is the first year my poll results have indicated it is now requested. As I don't yet have it but have 90% booking for this summer there are plenty of people who prefer the pool to the internet and most smart phones receive email without issue so is browsing so important?[/quote]I am 98% full in all three gites from April to September, maybe it is because of the free wifi;) The pool helps of course.3G doesn't work inside my gites (thick granite walls) and anyway it is very expensive abroad - I have an iphone and it costs lots to surf the internet when I go to the UK, even with the special Orange abroad package. People don't just use the internet for work, but also recipes, things to do in the local area, everything really. Free internet access would be indispensable to me so that is why I offer it to my guests.[/quote]Ha ha, stop advertising your pool and see how full you get [:)] Internet, icing on the cake not the cake, still have to find a flexible option for us and guests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimportequoi Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote user="AnOther"]I make that in excess of 35 holiday fortnights x the average family of 2 + 2 kids giving a total of 140 individuals so the question is how confident are you that not a single one of those guest or their 'orrible offspring will abuse your WiFi ?[/quote]Well, in 4 years no-one has - I've only got 1Mo so it isn't easy to telecharge anything...I know, I've tried with films in the past.I've had a lot of bookings which have depended on having internet availability. Maybe not essential for everyone, (not so much for French guests) but it is for me and most other nationalities. Same for the pool, king size beds...guests expect more and more now, and if you don't keep up with the demand, you lose risk losing bookings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Yes don't read me wrong, I agree Internet will have to happen so I regularly try to find what's available (easier if you are permanently resident) but currently I only really need it for 14-16 weeks a year. For now be grateful we don't all have it or you'll find the competition for lets even tougher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote user="Nimportequoi"]Well, in 4 years no-one has - I've only got 1Mo so it isn't easy to telecharge anything...I know, I've tried with films in the past.[/quote]You mean you assume no-one has, you cannot possibly know that, and I can assure you that 1mb is more than enough to download music and films.PS: Cannot quote you with a ' in your user name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimportequoi Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote user="AnOther"][quote user="Nimportequoi"]Well, in 4 years no-one has - I've only got 1Mo so it isn't easy to telecharge anything...I know, I've tried with films in the past.[/quote]You mean you assume no-one has, you cannot possibly know that, and I can assure you that 1mb is more than enough to download music and films.PS: Cannot quote you with a ' in your user name.[/quote]Music yes, but it takes a long time to download films, I've tried, as I said in a previous post. At least 4 hours and I'd know if someone else was doing it as they would be hogging all the bandwidth.People who stay here generally are families and they have better things to do with their time then spend hours downloading stuff, so Hadopi isn't at the top of my worry list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenofmyaunt Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Interesting thread. We have WiFi at our gite but only because the tenants in the main house who manage it for us have telephone/internet. They are now leaving and we will rent the whole property out as a holiday let so no-one will be permanently resident there. I don't really want to be forking out for a telephone line/broadband just for guests but if we have to does anyone know the most cost effective way to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 You couldn't make it up. From the Wiki link mentioned earlier:"Shortly after HADOPI's agency logo was presented to the public by Minister of Culture and Communication Frédéric Mitterrand, it was revealed that the logo used an unlicensed font. The font was created by typeface designer Jean François Porchez, and is owned by France Télécom. The design agency that drew the logo, Plan Créatif, admitted to using the font by mistake – although the font is available only illegally on pirate sites – and the logo was redone with another font."Clarkkent said: "don't know about French systems, but in England I have a BT Home Hub 2. In addition to being my modem-router, when it is switched on, it also acts as a BT Fon wi-fi hot spot and may accessed by anyone wishing to connect to the internet. ..........And if so, would not such a device free gite owner from the threat of Hadopi?"Freeboxes do this, Neuf and maybe others too.The Free hotspot user is given a separate IP address to that of the local subscriber, but still needs someone's (Free) account details in order to access the hotspot, so if you provide your details its still down to you.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Oh Dear![IMG]http://www.01net.com/images/article/578102.png[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 You mean you received this yourself, you naughty naughty boy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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