cooperlola Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Makfai has kindly sifted through all the links in recent posts and put together a list of those which might be useful to forum members.REFERENCE DOCUMENTS The Official French Statementhttp://www.securite-sociale.fr/comprendre/europe/europe/cmu_inactifs.htm and its English translationhttp://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Medical-cover-for-inactive-UK.htmlEU Directivehttp://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2004/l_229/l_22920040629en00350048.pdf EU Explanation of Directivehttp://www.ecas.org/file_uploads/1008.pdf Debate on Directivehttp://www.ecas.org/file_uploads/1209.pdf Living, working, studying - An overview of your EU rights (European Union)http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/nav/en/citizens/services/eu-guide/rights/index_en.html#14134_10 Five Year Rulehttp://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F12017.xhtml?&n=Etrangers%20en%20France&l=N8&n=Citoyens%20communautaires%20en%20France&l=N112 UK Legislation: Statutory Instrument 2006 No. 1003 The Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2006/20061003.htm#13) Internal documents, French govt. healthhttp://www.ameli.fr/l-assurance-maladie/textes-reglementaires/circulaires.phpThe "Honeyball" Declarationhttp://www.frenchhealthissues.eu/more_info/marys_declaration.htmHEALTHCARE IN FRANCEL'Assurance Maladiehttp://www.ameli.fr/ Health Care for Employed/Self-employed in Francehttp://www.ameli.fr/assures/droits-et-demarches/par-situation-professionnelle/vous-travaillez/vous-etes-salarie/les-conditions-generales-d-ouverture-des-droits-aff_orne.php CMU Websitehttp://www.cmu.fr/site/index.php4 C.M.U. et C.M.U. complémentairehttp://www.ameli.fr/fiches-synthetiques/c.m.u.-et-c.m.u.-complementaire_charente.php NEWSPAPER ARTICLESLe Mondehttp://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3214,36-951431@51-951543,0.htmlNHS bill for treatment of ‘health tourists’ soars to more than £62mhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article2374072.eceMore Accurate Report in Telegraph 1.10.07http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/01/nexpats101.xmlMore promising news : 1.10.07http://www.french-property.com/newsletter/2007/10/1/health/And in today's Telegraph 3.10.07http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2007/10/02/frenchhealth.xmlLOBBYINGSee our new Dedicated Website[I]http://www.frenchhealthissues.eu/Write to MPs and MEPshttp://www.writetothem.com/ Conservatives Abroadhttp://www.conservativesabroad.org/ UKREPhttp://www.ukrep.be/index.html French Electoral Zones for MEPshttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/paris/4/par41eu4912.htm French MEPshttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/zoneList.do?country=FR&language=EN UK MEPshttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/zoneList.do?country=GB&language=ENMary Honeyballhttp://maryhoneyball.net/ Members of Parliament by county or unitary authorityhttp://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/clomps.cfmUK Dept of Health Advice for Travellershttp://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Policyandguidance/Healthadvicefortravellers/index.htm France's helpdesk for international mobility and social securityhttp://www.cleiss.fr/EU Citizens Signpost Service.http://ec.europa.eu/citizensrights/front_end/index_en.htm SOLVIT problem solving network for EU Member Stateshttp://ec.europa.eu/solvit/site/index_en.htm Register to Votehttp://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/documents/overseas_registration.pdf EU Commissionershttp://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/index_en.htm Jim Murphy (Minister for Europe) -blog (add your comment)http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/blogs/jim_murphy/archive/2007/11/09/14438.aspx(a new page - recently added)http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/blogs/jim_murphy/archive/2007/09/26/13661.aspx#comments (previous responses)European Citizen's Action Servicehttp://www.ecas.org/TAX Tax Attache French Embassyhttp://www.institut-francais.org.uk/fiscal/ Taxation of Business Profitshttp://www.french-property.com/guides/france/working-in-france/starting-a-business/taxation/ Living in France, working in the UK – can it be done?http://www.frenchentree.com/fe-legal/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=28289 French Taxhttp://www.frenchentree.com/fe-legal/home.aspPersonal Taxation in Francehttp://www.french-property.com/guides/france/finance-taxation/taxation/ BUSINESSStarting a Businesshttp://www.french-property.com/guides/france/working-in-france/starting-a-business/ Running a UK business and living in France – how to save taxhttp://www.frenchentree.com/fe-legal/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=27907 Setting up a company in Francehttp://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1150454460655 Microenterprisehttp://rfconseil.grouperf.com/special/microentreprise/http://www.apce.com/cid19984/le-guide-de-la-micro-entreprise.html Business start-up agencyhttp://www.apce.com/pid371/apce.html MISC INFORMATIONFrench Consul in Londonhttp://www.consulfrance-londres.org/article.php3?id_article=378 Official gateway to the French civil servicehttp://www.service-public.fr/etranger/english.html We are looking at and for others so please post if you have any suggestions of things to add. Mods, maybe this would be a good sticky subject once we have it rounded out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Does the lack of response mean a) This is of no use to anybody?b) It's perfect as it is?c) I don't really care?Anybody?Does anybody think this would be useful as a sticky topic? Does anybody have any more suggestions to make? Makfai put a lot of work into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Can you perhaps add this? English translation of the social security statement ( from the French embassy in the UK)http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Medical-cover-for-inactive-UK.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 [quote user="Helen"] Can you perhaps add this? English translation of the social security statement ( from the French embassy in the UK) [/quote]I notice that there's no mention whatsoever af any '5 year rule'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 [quote user="Richard"][quote user="Helen"] Can you perhaps add this? English translation of the social security statement ( from the French embassy in the UK)[/quote]I notice that there's no mention whatsoever af any '5 year rule'.[/quote]Item 6 under "reference documents". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 [quote user="Helen"] Can you perhaps add this? English translation of the social security statement ( from the French embassy in the UK)http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Medical-cover-for-inactive-UK.html [/quote]Done! Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 It's good stuff. It's just going to take a while to check through all the relevant links ... thanks Makafai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommier Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 The links are an excellent idea and make a really useful reference point. Many thanks!I'm still worrying about the 5 year residency giving access to CMU as it doesn't mention it in the latest statement - in fact it says ALL inactifs not covered by E forms must have private insurance. Please reassure me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 If you look at the French link, you will see that Inactifs can apply for a carte de sejour permanent after 5 years. Then, this alters their status, thus : "Carte de séjour permanent Les citoyens qui ont acquis un droit au séjour permanent en France peuvent demander la délivrance d'une carte de séjour "CE - séjour permanent - toutes activités professionnelles", valable vingt ans. Cette carte, dont la possession n'est pas obligatoire, est renouvelable de plein droit"In effect, classification is then no longer "inactif" but "toutes activites professionelles." But it's still not totally clear whether you'd have to be working or not, from the above.There is still a bit of ducking and diving going on with this, so this is the most concrete evidence we have. When it's clearer, we'll add a more positive link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Relax, You have provided a huge amount of information. it will take some time to go through it all. All credit to you for taking on such a huge task and for producing a wonderful set of useful documents. Is their a definition in english of the term "inactifs" ams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washy Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I think we might say 'early retiree' ??? That's what my husband calls himself, 'inactifs' seems to imply some sort of disability which is certainly not meant by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I have tidied up the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thanks, Clair - it needed it![:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suninfrance Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Have just been forwarded these links. First two we already know about. Medical http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/healthinFrance/ - here you can sign the petition against British Citizens being deprived of health care in France http://www.frenchhealthissues.eu/ web site for British Citizens in France regarding the new health care issues, information, how to lobby, advice. www.cpam-dordogne.fr/anglais/index.htm - web site for the Dordogne CPAM (medical/social security) in english. Telephone 05 53 35 60 00 from 8.30 am to 17:30 pm If you go to this web site there is now a downloadable 80 page document in English explaining the French health system, it is excellent. www.expathealthdirect.co.uk Forward Planning your Healthcare in France - Article by Peter Owen Clickhere to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 The first two links reflect the current situation.The rest are based on the 'old' criteria for healthcare and are therefore out of date....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 This in spite of the fact that the web site was apparently updated on the 25th October, and it's been pretty clear that Peter Owen himself has a handle on what's going on. Why can't these people update their sites when things are so iffy at present? I hate to imagine the number of people currently selling up in the UK on the basis of info' received from this kind of site. Humph. I feel another letter coming on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suninfrance Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Flicking through a couple of other websites the other day and noticed their information is of date too. I did e-mail the link to the new website to FrenchEntree, but I can't find it anywhere on their health page. If anyone spots it, then I'll take that back.Having a problem identifying my French MEP for the Correze. Help please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 You don't have just one MEP, Suninfrance, you have several - all those in your region cover you.Find them herehttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/zoneList.do?country=FR&language=EN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suninfrance Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 In the words of Renee ('ello, 'ello) "you stupid woman" (me that is). LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Question deleted: information found under my nose...doh...[:$]Coops,Like many others I imagine, I'm quietly keeping an eye on developments and, unspoken though it may be, I am very grateful for your efforts.Keep up the good work [kiss] [kiss] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridgeman Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 ErnieYI could not have put it better myselfAdd me to your list of grateful'sAnd many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Katie Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Yes, me too Coops. I found quite a bit of information there relevant to me. [B][8-|] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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