Certificate of Residence

[Joshua]

Taken from FrenchEntree.com

Their interpretation of the Changes !

"Now,new arrivals will have to register with their mairie within 3 months of arriving, providing evidence that they have sufficient financial resources to live here and evidence of personal medical insurance, either an E106/ E121 or private insurance. They will then receive a Certificate of Residence."

Sorry if these questions has been already asked.

 Is there a figure for "income" to satisfy sufficient financial resources ie pension, investments per person / couple

Does this "Certificate" have to be renewed.

Joshua [8-)]

[Clair]

Joshua

As things stand today, the requirement for a certificat de résidence is not implemented yet. The decret that makes it compulsory has not yet been implemented and the mairies will not issue any until that happens.

Regarding the figure for income, this has been widely quoted a being equivalent to the RMI, which is revised every year. As far as I am aware, this has not been officially announced or confirmed, but I could be wrong.

The RMI figures are as below:

Montant de l'allocation de revenu minimum d'insertion (RMI)

Montant maximum de l'allocation depuis le 1er janvier 2007 :

Nombre d'enfants	Personne seule	En couple
0	440,86 EUR	661,29 EUR
1	661,29 EUR	793,55 EUR
2	793,55 EUR	925,81 EUR
Par enfant supplémentaire	Plus 176,34 EUR	Plus 176,34 EUR

[rothrugby]

Hi,

Funny about it needing a seperate decree as it's in French law already see Article L122-1- insere par loi no 2006-911 du 24 juillet 2006 Droit au sejour permanent.

 

It's also part of EU directive 2004/38/EC which is the original decree that caused all the current problems.You can find this in full on  the ECAS website.

[Clair]

[quote]Enregistrement des citoyens européens en mairie

L'obligation d'enregistrement en mairie des citoyens de l'Union

européenne, d'un autre Etat partie à l'accord sur l'Espace économique

européen et suisses s'applique aux seules personnes entrées en France

après l'entrée en vigueur d'un arrêté qui doit fixer le modèle de

l'attestation d'enregistrement délivrée.

Cet arrêté, conjoint des ministres de l'intérieur et des affaires sociales, n'a pas encore été publié.Nos fiches l'intégreront dès sa parution.

http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F2651.xhtml[/quote]

The law will be be applied when the decret is published.

The decree will be published  when the registration form (modèle d'attestation d'enregistrement) has been agreed.

[Lehaut]

Am getting feeling of Déjà vu here.  When we came in 96, we used a series of booklets under the "Citizens First" Right of Residence in France articles.  Paraphrasing slightly  from the pamphlet:

"  or if you are an economically inactive person you will have to prove that you have health insurance coving all types of health risk in France and adequate resources (ie an income not less than the annual income ceiling for receving the minimum benefit under Title VIII of the Social Security Code). At present, single persons must have minimum resources of at least FF 40.834 per annum.  Persons accompanied by their spouse and any dependent children...FF 71,525 per annum".

If it was the individuals intention to stay in France for more than 3 months, you had to apply for a residence permit within 3 months of arriving in France.  Failure to apply was punishable by fines of up to FF10,000.

National Rules Decree 94-211 of 11 March 1994.  Order of 6 April 1995.

Armed with my early retirement "pension" payment letter and E106 we got our first Carte Sejour.  Second 5 years later (we were in the equivalent of the CMU then).  Our third card was refused as they are not necessary for inactives (we were told).

Have I missed something here, or have the French forgotten the rules already exist, or have they annulled them and are now regretting it? 

 

[val douest]

When we arrived (end of 2003) Cartes du Sejour were being phased out.  We arrived at the local CPAM office with our E forms and every bit of supporting evidence we could think of.  However, we were asked to return with a Certificat de Residence from our local Mairie.  So the next Tuesday morning (the only opening time for our Mairie) we presented ourselves with a utility bill, passports and paperwork related to our house purchase.  Nothing was inspected and we were issued by the secretary with a Certificate of Residence printed off the computer, duly signed and dated by the Mayor.  No questions about our ability to support ourselves or any other questions come to that.  So if they have not yet received any info to the contrary, your local Mairie may be happy to issue you with a Certificat de Residence on the same basis - particularly if they already know you and are aware you are actually a resident.  Might be worth a try for the original poster (simply asking for the certificat)  as suddenly a Certificat de Residence seems to be a very useful document to have.

Val