A and E question, svp.

[woolybanana]

Accident at home, nasty, open, toe fracture, hell of a mess, ambulance took less than 10 minutes, straight to hospital, taken in to surgery unit from A and E, then 2 nights in hospital with anaesthetic surgery in the middle.

Gave my French health card and EHIC card to the administrators to sort out details.

The question then is, as this was an accident, am I covered 60% or totally by the health scheme?

By the way, interesting, if you have an open fracture and maybe some other things, you have to be put in a single room and cannot be charged for it.

Another thing, the pompiers ambulances do not seem to have any suspension; is this a local thing, were shock absorbers an optional extra, rejected on grounds of cost?

[Chancer]

100%

[woolybanana]

Thank you, Chancer, I thought so.

Now trying to get to trying to having a single jambe en l'air all day or as much as possible. With the lawn to mow and plants to attend to, tomatoes coming on apace, it is a right rubber.

[NormanH]

EHIC card has  nothing to do with it.

Carte Vitale (and if it hadn't been an accident Carte Mutuelle) is what is needed.

The single room follows the usual rule that if the Doctor decides you don't pay for it, but if you ask for it as an "extra" you do.

You may find you get a bill for 18€ a day forfait journalier basically a 'hotel bill" for the room and any meals, that the Sécu doesn't cover, unless you have a Mutuelle that pays it directly as mine does.

With some you have to pay this then get it back.

As an aside I seem to remember that you are diabetic, in which case you should have 100% cover for anything related to that (and of course damage to feet is one of the things they are very hot on in that case)

[idun]

Sounds awful wooly.

Sadly, we have to follow the advice given, pain though it is.

[Gardian]

Norman is absolutely right and I'm surprised (but no offence intended) that as a long-standing resident you didn't know that an EHIC cuts no ice here.

Perefectly reasonably, all the hospital is interested in is your Carte Vitale and Mutuelle details or payment method.

Souns like a nasty injury, but you'll probably survive!

[Chancer]

None of us are at the top of our game decision wise when in pain after an accident.

[NormanH]

I agree, but I was pointing it out for others who may find themselves in that situation.

[Chancer]

[quote user="Gardian"]Norman is absolutely right and I'm surprised (but no offence intended) that as a long-standing resident you didn't know that an EHIC cuts no ice here. Perefectly reasonably, all the hospital is interested in is your Carte Vitale and Mutuelle details or payment method. Souns like a nasty injury, but you'll probably survive![/quote]

 

Well many of them fill their boots when its another state paying the bill as in Woolys case and will facture prestations that they wont with the secu, frais de prise en charge is but one example another is the forfait journalier gets renamed and is billed at a much higher price.

 

I do agree though to remove administrative complication just present the carte vitale, once they make a mistake they wont lose face by correcting the error.

[mint]

Be aware that 100% doesn't always mean what it says as I have found out to my cost.

You might still have dépassements honoraires and nowadays many médicaments are not included in the list for payment by SS.  Even médicaments prescribed by specialists as under "affection exonerante" and are directly related to whatever ALD you might have[:'(]

[woolybanana]

Thank you guys for your input and comments. You were quite right that I did not need to present the IHIC; frankly I was rather groggy and concerned by what was apparently still leaking from the dressing and by what I had seen in terms of damage.

Interesting that the EHIC scheme is somewhat abused too.

Am now going stir crazy and trying to garden on one leg.

[alittlebitfrench]

Stop moaning you big girls blouse.

By the way, did they feed you in hospital ????

This will cheer you up. It is from the funny face French forum on such a subject.

http://www.survivefrance.com/t/hungry-in-hospital-what-to-do/16924

I am convinced now that only weird people move to France from the UK.

[woolybanana]

Would not have fed such food to my dogs but then was not that hungry.

Am not whinging but stating things as they were which makes a change from some of the rather esoteric blabber that has been spouted recently.

[Chancer]

It cheered me up ALBOF [:)]

 

The vegeterrorists survival guide to French hospital!

 

Any more gems like that?

 

Have you restrained yourself from posting there or have all your identities already been banned?

[mint]

[quote user="alittlebitfrench"]Stop moaning you big girls blouse.

By the way, did they feed you in hospital ????

This will cheer you up. It is from the funny face French forum on such a subject.

http://www.survivefrance.com/t/hungry-in-hospital-what-to-do/16924

I am convinced now that only weird people move to France from the UK.[/quote]

I got drawn into reading the thread you have posted and, frankly, I don't recognise any of the things that were said.

Remember, I, too live near Périgueux.  AFAIK, there are 2 main hospitals in Périgueux and I have experience of both.  That is, OH was in the one and I was in the other.  OH, like the poster on that forum, does not eat meat and he said the meals he was served were carefully prepared and that he was perfectly happy to eat them.

Now, I left the other hospital only yesterday afternoon.  Someone came to discuss menus with me from Day 1, asked me if I had any special dietary requirements and whether I ate everything.  OK, it was not home cooking and everything seemed to lack seasoning.  But, there were little sachets of salt to add to the food.  Both lunch and dinner start with soup, then a mains, then cheese for the evening and a simple dessert and fruit.  The hot meals were hot and the cold desserts were cold[:D]

I evaluated all the meals nutritionally and I do believe that I could not only survive but adequately get all daily dietary requirements from the meals served.  There was always protein, carbohydrates, veg, fruit, dairy products, etc.

I ate everything because, since my dental implants done only last month, I have been careful to eat meals that are "vitaminée" and "nourissante" (as described in the instructions).  Of course, what is good for my teeth must necessarily be good for the rest of my body!  I carefully ate everything, except for the bread (and there was even butter provided).  I don't really know what to make of that thread you have posted, ALBF.  I do not recognise anything that the woman talked about and complained so bitterly of.

As far as I was concerned, everything that was done for me was "top" as the French like to call it.  Because I am not good with hot weather, I asked for a fan and that was produced within minutes as if whisked there by magic (I wasn't sure they'd have such a thing even)!

If I were to nitpick, I'd say that they were over careful with all the help they wanted to give me to "faire la petite toilette".  I kept refusing and, in the end, I sneaked out to the shower and didn't tell anyone as they would have held up their hands in horror and said but madame you have just had your operation and you musn't do all things for yourself!

Would like to know the exact hospital this woman was talking about and would like to know how long ago or otherwise this experience was posted.

[alittlebitfrench]

@ Chancer

I lasted a couple of weeks on that forum then I deactivated myself. Seriously, they are weird. There is a FE (DB) member over there that thinks he runs the show.

@ Mint

I was in hospital for a couple of months and the food was great.

Winging dumb Brits !!!!

[NormanH]

[quote user="mint"][quote user="alittlebitfrench"]Stop moaning you big girls blouse.

By the way, did they feed you in hospital ????

This will cheer you up. It is from the funny face French forum on such a subject.

http://www.survivefrance.com/t/hungry-in-hospital-what-to-do/16924

I am convinced now that only weird people move to France from the UK.[/quote]

I Now, I left the other hospital only yesterday afternoon.  Someone came to discuss menus with me from Day 1, asked me if I had any special dietary requirements and whether I ate everything.  OK, it was not home cooking and everything seemed to lack seasoning.  But, there were little sachets of salt to add to the food.  Both lunch and dinner start with soup, then a mains, then cheese for the evening and a simple dessert and fruit.  The hot meals were hot and the cold desserts were cold[:D]

I evaluated all the meals nutritionally and I do believe that I could not only survive but adequately get all daily dietary requirements from the meals served.  There was always protein, carbohydrates, veg, fruit, dairy products, etc.

I ate everything because, since my dental implants done only last month, I have been careful to eat meals that are "vitaminée" and "nourissante" (as described in the instructions).  Of course, what is good for my teeth must necessarily be good for the rest of my body!  I carefully ate everything, except for the bread (and there was even butter provided).  I don't really know what to make of that thread you have posted, ALBF.  I do not recognise anything that the woman talked about and complained so bitterly of.

As far as I was concerned, everything that was done for me was "top" as the French like to call it.  Because I am not good with hot weather, I asked for a fan and that was produced within minutes as if whisked there by magic (I wasn't sure they'd have such a thing even)!

If I were to nitpick, I'd say that they were over careful with all the help they wanted to give me to "faire la petite toilette".  I kept refusing and, in the end, I sneaked out to the shower and didn't tell anyone as they would have held up their hands in horror and said but madame you have just had your operation and you musn't do all things for yourself!

Would like to know the exact hospital this woman was talking about and would like to know how long ago or otherwise this experience was posted.

[/quote]

I would agree with you about the food in Hospital, although of course in the ICM at Montpellier the menus are specifically aimed at the nutritional needs of people with cancer/chemo etc. I also had frequent visits from the dietitian and was able to negotiate within the boundaries of what I was allowed by the Doctors.

I am amazed that you needed a fan though. In Montpellier (and even Béziers) the rooms are all air-conditioned.

For ma petite toilette I was assigned a trainee aide soignante who actually wrote me up as her case study. I allowed her to me soigner for as long as she wished...[6]

[mint]

So..........you made the most of your little helper[:D][;-)]

The hospital I was in had wonderful medical facilities but nothing "fancy" like air-conditioning or even a shower in my room.

Still, I suppose Périgueux is not quite as hot as Béziers though I was absolutely dreading the heat.  I had a room with a wonderful view of the church and of a delightful internal courtyard though I'd have gladly exchanged the view for a shower and air-conditioning.  Still, only in 3 nights and the medical side of things couldn't be bettered.

[Patf]

Woolly - your accident sounds horrible - hoping the pain has settled down by now. Foot wounds are more painful than most others.

Remember RICE - Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate. When you have the time to relax.