Punch Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 After a wait of several years, ADSL broadband is becoming available in a couple of weeks time to my tiny commune of 160 inhabitants - yippeee!My question is; Has anyone changed over from ISDN to Broadband and could give any tips or advice on how easy/difficult is was to set up. I assume I will need a broadband router for my home network. How much support do FT give and is the installation/changeover done on the same day?Any other tips advice much appreciated.Punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardbk Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I did this recently - the main hurdle was getting FT to convert the previous ISDN line to analogue - we decided to keep 2 analogue numbers and it took them a number of weeks to find an additional two wires in the village junction boxes . E.g ISDN takes two wires , so this pair can be reused used for the analogue line, but they needed to find another pair.If you already have a router you can simply plug in an ADSL modem with ethernet output into it. Otherwise you can get a fully integrated ADSL modem + router e.g for wireless there is LINKSYS WAG54G, Netgear DG834G etc which you can find in the large supermarkets (or cheaper on the web). France telecom will charge a fortune for a router, so probably best to buy it yourself. regsRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Thanks Richard I too will require two seperate lines as we have seperate numbers for fax and phone,and was wondering if ADSL could work with just the incoming pair that we have at present but obviously we will require another pair.I will need a new router+modem so will look around for one rather than buy from FT. I remember how much they charged me for a NUMERIS modem a while back!Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 When i have Numeris installed (no ADSL unfortunately) do i have to buy the Numeris modem from France Telecom or are there cheaper options elsewhere? If so, where and approx how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesLauriers Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I bought an Olitec ISDN (RNIS) modem for around 60€ via the internet from selexium.fr, at the time it was much less than FT.Do search on Google.fr for Olitec and you should find a few suppliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Thks. Now i know the name of the product i can go and search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardbk Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 [quote]Thanks Richard I too will require two seperate lines as we have seperate numbers for fax and phone,and was wondering if ADSL could work with just the incoming pair that we have at present but obvious...[/quote]" was wondering if ADSL could work with just the incoming pair that we have at present" In theory it would work with only 2 wires - there is plenty of bandwidth - then you could have a box to split out into a number of lines. However, the only way FT seems to do it is to run separate pairs back to the exchange for each analogue line. regs Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardbk Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 [quote]When i have Numeris installed (no ADSL unfortunately) do i have to buy the Numeris modem from France Telecom or are there cheaper options elsewhere? If so, where and approx how much?[/quote]You can either use a modem, or look for an "ISDN router" Other suppliers of modems and routers include Eicon , and for ISDN routers there is Eicon (good basic model is DIVA 1830) or "Allied Telesyn" , but due to ADSL these are not high volume items and thus tend to be expenseive new , so as suggested best to try and pick them up on e-bay as many people are throwing them away as they convert to ADSL.regsRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time<%@ Page Language="C#" %><%= Request.Browser.Browser %> Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I have one of the Olitec ISDN modems for sale, brand new in box.. As we are not supposed to flog stuff on the forums PM me for details..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobc Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Dear Paul,We changed to ADSL with Wanadoo in July and it was very straightforward - apart from a problem on the installation CD if you opted for a USB connection to the PC. Wanadoo ADSL support quickly talked us through the solution and this has now probably been fixed on later CDs.After knowing that ADSL was available in our commune, we rang our local FT office - Villeneuve sur Lot, who checked the suitability of our line - within two days they had activated it.With a trip to the office we purchased an Inventel DW-B200 WiFi router with one extra USB WiFi connector for 69 Euros - on promo at the time, and no doubt the experts will say that the Inventel box does not compare with others, but for us it does the job - stunning speed and available all the time.Kind regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaacsnana Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I will need a new router+modem so will look around for one rather than buy from FT. I remember how much they charged me for a NUMERIS modem a while back! (quote)Yes, 149euros at FT. Another shock, we recently had a big storm and my Numeris box blew, knocking out the phone lines, and blowing the modem. FT sent me a bill for 210euros to replace the box, and I had to buy a new modem. Apparently, I am supposed to disconnect the box from the wall during a storm?. Fine - what about if I am out at the time? Are we supposed to disconnect every time we leave the house - just in case!! So - that storm cost me 359 euros, and a trip to Perigueux for the new modem. Not to mention being without phone lines and internet for 3 days until FT turned up.The joys of living in rural France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaacsnana Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 [quote]Bunnz do not anti-surge wotsits help? We have two linked to computers. Martyn[/quote]Dunno Mart,How are cheesy crisp things gonna help my Puter??Just jesting, think I might look for one when I go to Perigueux next. Bunnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted September 18, 2004 Author Share Posted September 18, 2004 [quote]Dear Paul, We changed to ADSL with Wanadoo in July and it was very straightforward - apart from a problem on the installation CD if you opted for a USB connection to the PC. Wanadoo ADSL support quic...[/quote]Thanks Bob and to all other helpfull replies.I've been given a date of 1st october for availablity of ADSL here so hopefully can make the changover smoothly with this additional info. I assume Bob you bought your Wifi router from FT? Does this mean you have a wireless connection between Pc's in your house or am I barking up the wrong tree?regardsPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewdyshen Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 Our Numeris box blew in a storm but not the modem. The house insurance paid the complete bill with no questions. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bobc Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 Dear Paul,We have our main PC which is in the office, in a separate outbuilding connected to the Inventel box via a USB cable. The second PC in the office uses the plug-in wireless connector in a USB socket. The third family PC in the house is connected with a 30m RJ45 network cable that we bought from Expansys together with an Ethernet card for the family machine. The other end plugs into an RJ45 socket in the Inventel box.It all works very well with all three machines having access at the same time.Despite other postings knocking FT and their prices, I feel that 69Euros for the box and one wireless adaptor is hardly expensive. You also have one source of support in the case of problems, rather than two if you have bought your own hardware.Kind regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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