TransientPunk Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 im sick of america and the life i have here... i need a new start i would like to move to france it has always been a dream of mine to live in europe im only 20 but i have no savings so i need a way to secure a job before i go over there i just have no clue how to go about this. can anyone help me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 As you have no money you would probably be advised to try the UK, their govt seems more willing to give money etc to penniless immigrants.Somewhere there is a plaque (but where? ) maybe you could try them ......................Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,I lift my lamp beside the golden door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 [:)][:)][:)]And who gave that well known monument to the country ? The French ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 UK may be a better bet as all the Brits are coming to France and there will be lots of space. Plus lots of houses for sale, slightly damp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 [quote user="Russethouse"][:)][:)][:)]And who gave that well known monument to the country ? The French ![/quote]and let's not forget the French contribution in helping to create the US... (shhht... don't tell GWB! [;-)]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Clair, you are missing out the best kept secret of all: the American contribution to creating the French Nation, (I dont mean saving it a couple of times either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Ah, you must be referring to the Louisiana Purchase? [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 You mean like the idea of the revolution, the Droits de l'Homme and the constitution?Or were you thinking of later events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 That, and WW1 and WW2 and Indochina...Marshall AidBretton WoodsTo name a few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 [quote user="Dick Smith"]You mean like the idea of the revolution, the Droits de l'Homme and the constitution?Or were you thinking of later events?[/quote]I am referring to the battles of Yorktwon and Chesapeake in 1781.From The Library of Congress: http://international.loc.gov/intldl/fiahtml/fiatheme5a.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 But wouldn't emigrating to England be a step backwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 From your source:"French motives had more to do with the persistent Franco-Britishrivalry than the justness of the American cause. Through its alliancewith the American colonists, France hoped to drive a wedge between thedifferent parts of Britain’s American empire, thereby strengtheningFrance in relative terms and restoring its traditional role in theEuropean balance of power."I'm pretty sure that the ancien regime did not view an independent United States of America with anything other than horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Whatever the intention, it happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 A form of historical interpretation, I suppose...Especially as it was intention you were ascribing. But probably best not to let the facts stand in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 If you say so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Eh? What does that mean? Of course I said so. I think you may be out of your depth here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 You're probably right! You are way too deep for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Good. Last time you just said I was condescending... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I'm sure I read a theory quite recently that put forward the idea that had the British not been busy in other conflicts with the French there could have easily been a different outcome to the American War of Independence, I may even have read it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 More info:Dedication of Memorial Tablet to French Soldiers, October 18, 1931Yorktown campaignImpact of French World-Wide Involvement in the War for American Independence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 [quote user="Russethouse"]I'm sure I read a theory quite recently that put forward the idea that had the British not been busy in other conflicts with the French there could have easily been a different outcome to the American War of Independence, I may even have read it here?[/quote]The point I was trying to make (obviously not clearly enough) is that the French monarchy had no reason to support an American republic. In fact the exact opposite. They did have reason, though, to embarrass Britian if they could. Which is not the same as supporting the new USA in it's birth pangs. In fact the opposite, it was the young USA which supported France at the time of the revolution and the example of the Continental Congress which enthused the French revolutionaries.American Independence - 1776French Revolution - 1789 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana (ex tag) Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 To put it simply, all those soldiers the French sent to America to fight the Brits came back imbued with the spirit of the American Revolution, which eventually cost Louis his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Which, I would humbly submit, scarcely counts as 'support'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celynne Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Dear Transient,From the ridiculous responses you have received from these people on this forum I would advise you to get your life together in the US first, ie. get some therapy if necessary, get a job, save some money, then travel to France to see if it is really where you want to be. Your dream of what living there would be like compared to the reality may be shocking. It seems to me that the people who have responded to you on this forum are self centered and heartless. All they have done is argue with each other about history or try to get you to move to England (yikes). If that is the general attitude toward Americans (or any other immigrants, no doubt) in France, you will be more unhappy there than ever. Do some research and maybe even move somewhere closer. I live in beautiful British Columbia Canada. You couldn't find a more gorgeous, friendly and caring place than here. Forget France!! or at least go for a visit first. Don't ask these cold hearted people, they are too into themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Makes you wonder what a satisfied and happy resident of B C is doing trolling around an Anglo French forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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