Grumpy Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 My satellite box is reporting that ITV 1 is scrambled! Is this a permanent change or just a local anomaly with my setup?cheersSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 There's been some chatter about ITV scrambling some regions...See here: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Try channel 993 which should be ITV London irrespective of which card you have. No use for local news and weather but should be a quick fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I covered this in a post only a few days ago (Potential problems with ITV on DSat).The topic is still on the top page of this subsection.http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/1270859/ShowPost.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thanks all - I'll try another region!Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Grumpy: I forgot to ask - is this a Sky box or an ordinary FTA....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 It's an ordinary FTA satellite box. As suggested, I tried another region, so we now have access again to ITV1! As you say, it's a bit strange that they have not got their act together.cheersSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 In essence what has appeared to happen is that ITV (and others) have run out of space on Astra 2D, the only satellite with a sufficiently tight footprint to persuade those oh-so-precious rights holders to permit unencrypted stuff to be broadcast, in the mistaken belief that the signal doesn't stray far outside the UK (we of course know otherwise).ITV are thus - and it is truly unbelieivable that this has come to pass - forced to go back to Sky and beg them to allow ITV to pay for some sub regions to be encrypted (allowing them to shunt these versions onto 2A/B/C), hence if you have a Sky box and card you won't notice the problem. Sky are squatting on a number of transponders on 2D which they leased in good faith and are delighted not to have to give up just to make ITV's and other's lives easier - if Sky could be persuaded to move their 2D stuff to 2A/B/C then there wouldn't be a problem for ITV/C4/C5 as space would appear on 2D. Sky not unnaturally want to obstruct freesat as much as possible and regain a revenue stream for the costs of Videoguard.It is all very reminiscent of little boys in a playground squabbling over territory, the sad bit is the more ITV have to pay for encryption (which they thought they'd escaped from for good) the less there is for quality programmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 So Martin, I take it this is the reason C4 HD is encrypted?- at least that's how it appears on my Fortec Star. How do the 'official' UK HD boxes cope with this ?paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Paul, Martin is obviously out enjoying himself, but what you call the 'official' UK HD boxes cope with the Channel 4 HD issue in the same way as Freesat From Sky works (as far as I know) it's scrambled but non-subscription. So only a Sky HD box will receive it. The last time I looked the Channel 4 HD service is not on freesat.Regards - Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 .....out visiting the sick - a French friend has ended up in Perigueux hospital following a minor heart attack; seems to be doing OK.CH 4 SD s only FTA after they thought of the wily fiddle that duplicates their own 2D feed with the Sky versions (on 2A/B) that they have contracted to continue until the autumn. I assume that ch 4 HD is up against the same problem of lack of capacity on 2D as everyone else. So as Tim says there's presumably no ch 4 HD on a Freesat box, just as there are no ITV scrambled subregions (the ones that are scrambled anyway....)I hope to acquire a couple of Freesat boxes in the next two weeks so will be able to have a play and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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