Alpinemist Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 So I'm thinking that on our impending move to France it might be worth buying an Apple IPad. That way we can keep google translation with us wherever we go. Visit the neighbours, Marie etc. So the question is: I understand you can change the keyboard to any language you want, so is there any benefit to buying one in France or in the UK. Does an english one pick up french wireless if your in the local hardware store for example or do you need a french one for this? Any benefit either way ? Techies, please advice a novice how this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I would like to respond but I've made a personal late new years resolution not to reply to identical posts in different sections [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinemist Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 In my defense I did try to delete the other one but it wouldn't let me...... Okay I'm just stupid for putting it in the wrong place the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginia.c Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I am using my ipad in france now to reply to this thread. It was purchased in England and, so far, i have used it via wireless in france in my own home and in the homes of a couple of friends here. I haven't tried to use a wireless network whilst out and about so can't comment on this point. All i can say is that i now don't use my laptop here for anything. I download books, music, films etc whenever i choose and i can't imagine being without it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Oh well, we all make mistakes, you might not be able to delete the other post but you can edit it at any time.Re the question, the iPad is just a WiFi device like any other and it will connect to any available Wifi service any where in the world regardless of language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Are you sure you want an iPad ?For a little bit more cash you can buy an Macbook Air that is almost as compact and has a full proper keyboard. It uses the same, solid-state internals and is both fast and has a brilliant screen.Go and try the iPad first and see if you really like using a touch-screen keypad.I didn't and bought the 'Air' and am very happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmobile Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Or, even better, get an i-Pod Touch which costs about half the price of an i-Pad and does all the same things - plus you can carry it around in your shirt pocket, unlike an i-Pad or a laptop. I have an i-Pad but I use my i-Pod Touch most of the time simply because it's in my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I don't see how you can really compare the two especially when the iPad has something like twice the battery duration of the 'style over substance' Airbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 you need to check your maths Ernie, 10 hours on the iPad against 7 on the Macbook Air.My point was the fact that it has a proper keyboard rather than a touch-screen, but each to his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicandJo Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Wifi in a DIY store - dream on!Anyway, I don't rate the iPad's value for money, iTouch much more practical and a lot less moolah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginia.c Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Depends what you want the device for really, and personal preference of cour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginia.c Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Well, fell off my chair, and on nothing more than coffee either. Managed to hit the post button on the way down too. Now, if i'd planned that, it would never have worked.What i was going on to say was that i wouldnt watch films or read books on a Touch as the screen is way to small for me. I watch the iplayer a lot too and the size of the ipad screen is perfect for this. But, it's horses for courses. My OH has sausage fingers so wouldnt cope with the ipad so i got him the MacAir and he loves it. It is so light compared to his old laptop that he is even taking it with him on his next touring trip, strapped carefully somewhere on the bike.My ipad has become my most treasured possession since my ipod revolutionised my music listening. Oh, and since installing the Clearview stove of course - now that has changed my life too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprogster Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Bugsy, the Apple Mac Air entry price is over double that of the entry level ipad in the Uk, so not just a little more cash.If you are just wanting to mainly access the internet and emails, the base ipad does everything you need.The itouch or iphone are excellent, but the screen size is too small for prolonged internet usage, especially if you are over fifty and are age related long sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Looking on Amazon, I also see that there are other tablets available, one of which (Archos) gets very good reviews and is getting on for half the price of an i-Pad. Please explain the advantages of these Apple products to me (I know how Bugsy feels!) which justifies their inflated prices. I ask because I have an i-Pod and I find the fact that it shackles you to the truly dreadful i-Tunes a real negative compared to my far cheaper (bought subsequently) MP3/4 player which accepts music files in many more formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 [quote user="Sprogster"]Bugsy, the Apple Mac Air entry price is over double that of the entry level ipad in the Uk, so not just a little more cash. [/quote]To be fair please compare like with like (as close as you can get) rather than entry-level against top end.Macbook Air.1.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache; or optional 1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB shared L2 cache800MHz frontside bus2GB of 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM onboard (4GB maximum)Storage: 64GB or 128GBFind an iPad with the same spec, well, actually you can't because the maximum processor speed on the iPad is 1.0GHz and the maximum storage is 64Gb, but find one near to the above spec (64 against 64, for example) and you'll find the difference much less than double.In all this it doesn't really matter, of course as personal choice will always win over other peoples views and recommendations..[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicandJo Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I've never had an issue loading any tunes onto iTunes.....Why I love apple stuff.......remote control of music library, library/iPod streaming to powered speakers, internet radio anywhere in the house blah blah. Each to their own I guess but for me their stuff is mostly good. And cool. Which is most important after all.... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinemist Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 Thanks everyone. It seems that the wireless works so that's the main thing. I'll have a look at the Air and Ipad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcardis Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 If you have an iPod you are free to usea range of other PC based software to manage your music, etc, ratherthan iTunes.In what way is iTunes truly dreadful?What file formats do you want to playthat iTunes/iPod cannot handle.I am really no fan of Apple as acompany and do not like the fact that I cannot change the battery onmy iPod Touch myself or put in different memory cards.But with other apps on the iPod it is apretty good way of listening to my music collection via wirelessaround the house and garden.In the house I have Logitech SqueezeboxServer running on the PC and a Squeezebox Radio in the kitchen –with the iPeng app on the iPod I can listen to all of my iTuneslibrary on the PC anywhere within wireless range and control theRadio from the iPod.And I also have e-books- great forboring flights, and the complete IGN large scale map library on myiPod – great for walking trips!Marcardis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I wouldn't have an IPhone or IPad after watching the ITV news tonight (but then I wouldn't buy anyway because they are over priced). It seems they secretly record all your movements and the data is passed back to Apple but what for nobody knows. Did a bit of searching (IPhone Spy) and it seems this has been going on for a while. In Australian they have banned military personnel from using them. When having a 'poke' around the web it also seems there is a Trojan that records keystrokes on both. Its able to get round the 'protection' system on an Apple, install and run without 'permission'. I thought these things, according the Apple users, just don't happen. Seeing as there is very little AV and AT software for Apple computers most people are totally unaware of any of this software running on their equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I have an original 2g iPhone (it cost me nowt but that's another story) and if anybody rummaged in my doings they would come up sorely disappointed !Most Apple users like to live in their own little world of blissful denial [blink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcardis Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 It's a quiet news day today in the UK so good for a sensational, if inaccurate story.Data on the iPhone is only synced to the pc that it is connected to. The data is not sent to Apple.Every time you turn your mobile phone on your movements an be tracked.Of course this 'news' would be nothing to do with people promoting their services:http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/iPhone Spy cannot be installed on a standard iPhone or iPad.What is the name of this Trojan that can record keystrokes on an iPhone or iPad.Overpriced compared to what? I have a 32gb iPod touch - what would be a cheaper alternative with the same or better spec.Marcardis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 [quote user="AnOther"]Most Apple users like to live in their own little world of blissful denial [blink][/quote]Like Windows users don't, of course.Personally, I really don't care what people use, its called freedom of choice.I'll bet you didn't know that Mac users make the best lovers either..........................[:P][:D][kiss]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicandJo Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I'm with Bugsy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Reading the link that was given it does say "There’s no evidence that it’s being transmitted beyond your device and any machines you sync it with" but why does it say it 'does or does not' rather than 'no evidence'. That rather smacks of 'well actually we don't know' just like nobody seems to know at present why these devices are recording data. I don't see there is anything wrong with this, I mean, since 9/11 (or shortly after) all phones have had GPS built in and can be tracked although it does require the tracking to be activated (remotely by government agencies if need be) but nobody worries yet when somebody discovers Apple are doing it then it becomes a major news story. Perhaps somebody is just trying to point out that at the end of the day Apples are just the same, well with exception to the price, as anything else.By the way my Zen 32gb mp3 player thing cost just over £50 (as opposed to £170 for an Ipod with the same storage) and comes with a radio transmitter so I can listen to it in the car but then so does my Nokia phone. Also there is none of this security stuff on the Zen so I can move music around at random from one machine to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 [quote user="Bugsy"]I'll bet you didn't know that Mac users make the best lovers either..........................[:P][:D][kiss].[/quote]Mrs Bugs never explained this hidden advantage to me when I met her. [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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