Dave&Olive Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 hi ok I signed up with Orange last Monday at the shop .just had this .. et si vous optiez pour le prélèvement automatique ? Bonjour, Lors de la souscription à votre offre internet, vous avez choisi de régler par chèque.Aujourd'hui, nous souhaitons vous simplifier la vie !Pour vous ôter tout souci de règlement, optez pour le prélèvement automatique en cliquant ici .Vous pouvez gérer à tout moment votre compte sur orange.fr > espace client > mon compte internet.Merci de votre confiance. Fabrice AndréDirecteur de la relation clients I was just about to fill in my bank details mmmmm I thought you have all my details you even took a RIB of me ... no pad lock nearly had me be careful out there Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Did you choose to pay by cheque?I would be very worried if that is a scam as it suggests someone in the shop has passed your detail on. I would be inclined to go back and ask them what the hell they are playing at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-12565891-signaler-une-tentative-d-arnaque-a-orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcardis Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Clicking on 'ici' takes you to the general Orange site.Logging in takes you to the secure Orange site.They do not want people paying by cheque.Where is the scam?!What address did the email come from?Marcardis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 hi ok All the emails I have from Orange come from Orange-FT........... this one comes from mailforge.orange and I have checked my details and I am not paying by cheque but by direct debit Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Loads of stuff on the net just Google "mailforge.orange" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Just checked my recent Orange emails; they all originate at noreply@mailforge.orangeI think you'll find that the scams have an extra bit in the email address, namely ".r", thus noreply@r.mailforge.orangeClicking on the link in the scam messages takes you to a page which appears the be the real login page but in fact is hosted elsewhere, Nigeria or somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcardis Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Quite correct.noreply@mailforge.orange is a genuine Orange address.Marcardis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 This seems to have been going on since 2009, check out the Forum HERE, They never give up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I'm sure it's happening, but it's a case of being vigilant. A good clue is that when you hover the cursor over a link in a scam email the address displayed in the little tag is not the same as the one shown in the message.This is not a problem confined to Orange; you'll get these scam/phishing emails from your bank too.EDIT (well, not actually from your bank, but pretending to be!!) Be aware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Gosh this all got me really worried because I answered one of these email's and used by debit card. [:@]Let me explain. I recently changed bank and I had a letter from Orange to tell me that my bill had not been paid, the direct debit had been refused (I shall have to sort this out with my new bank). I then got an email which had the correct amount on of the money I owed and the option to pay by debit card so I clicked on the link to pay as I didn't want my service stopped. The link starts with www.r.mailforge.orange.fr.... etc which took me to my account from which I logged in and paid via my bank card. I had a screen pop up with the payment details which I printed off, at the bottom is a CPOP number which is the transaction number.Today I phoned Orange having read this thread and they were able to confirm that I had paid by my card and that the CPOP number was identical to what I had printed off so this is either a very clever scam or it's not a scam at all. Anyway I asked the chap if address's coming from Orange can start with www.r.mailforge but unfortunately he was not able to answer. What he did tell me was that if you forward (very important to forward and not copy) the email to abuse@orange.fr they will email you back if it is a forgery.Another interesting thing is that the SPAM filter for Outlook 2007 treats all emails starting with noreply@mailforge.orange.fr as SPAM and puts them in the 'Junk' folder.Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote user="sid"]I'm sure it's happening, but it's a case of being vigilant. A good clue is that when you hover the cursor over a link in a scam email the address displayed in the little tag is not the same as the one shown in the message.This is not a problem confined to Orange; you'll get these scam/phishing emails from your bank too. Be aware![/quote]And not just from your bank. I get these ones from banks where I have never had an account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote user="Rabbie"][quote user="sid"] I'm sure it's happening, but it's a case of being vigilant. A good clue is that when you hover the cursor over a link in a scam email the address displayed in the little tag is not the same as the one shown in the message.This is not a problem confined to Orange; you'll get these scam/phishing emails from your bank too. Be aware![/quote]And not just from your bank. I get these ones from banks where I have never had an account.[/quote]Very true!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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