LodeveLibrarian Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Our local retailer has just installed for us a Cahors box which we were told would record English channels. We can only see the programme that is on and the one following it – so no 7 day TV guide as specified in the manual. Our retailer told us it was the fault of the satellite provider that we could not get the 7 day guide Previously we had a Sky box but were paying £45 per month for not a lot of features, although we could record on it. The main reason for getting this one was to set up recordings as we did on the Sky box.I would be grateful for any comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip24 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I can't help you with your latest box but a Humax box should connect to your existing Sat Dish for uk tv or you may require a larger dish. Maybe someone from your area will post what is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 As far as I am aware the only satellites that broadcast UK TV programmes are the two Astra ones. Our house in 31 now has a 1.2m x 1.3m dish and at certain times of the year some channels are lost, such as ITV for our UK region it can be found by selecting another region.The dish feeds two Humax boxes. However, catchup is not available as it is done over the Internet and unless you have a VPN in the UK it will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodeveLibrarian Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Thank you for your replies. Yes we are in the South of France and we do have a large dish, but we had no problems with our Sky box before - apart from the usual loss of connection which I understand everyone had. I'm wondering if he hasn't set it up right bit it it good to get feedback from the forum before I go back to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 My French friend (lived in the UK for many years and preferred UK TV) had a similar problem with a French satellite installation company when she returned to live in France.They had no knowledge of a UK satellite situation and suggested a similar set up to the one you have.I suggested she buy a Humax box from the UK and gave her accurate info as to where the sat dish should be pointed .. plus the need for a dual feed lnb and appropriate cabling to support viewing one channel and recording another. Her guy showed his limited knowledge by the nature of his devis including the fact that he had not heard of a dual feed lnb .. so he need informing.Eventual result one happy friend and one local trader who has more knowledge than he had before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabtree Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 You have had a generic satellite box installed. These only as you have found out do a now and next EPGIf you want UK freesat with a 7 day EPG and recording facility, you will need like others have said a box from the UK. There may be some available second hand in France.Humax are the current recommended ones, but they are stopping, and a new company (formerly Pace) will be entering the market, but not for a few months.If you LNB (the thing on the end of the dish arm) has 2 connections you can watch one channel and record another (sometimes a third!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 But Crabtree catchup is achieved via the Internet not via the satellite. No Internet connection no 7day EPG. As I previously posted, if it is detected that the connection is from a non UK Internet provider then it will not work. One way round it was to have a VPN that was UK based but I understand that these are being 'sussed out'.As for LNBs they are available with:Single connectionTwo connectionsFour connectionsEight connections.I currently run an LNB with four connections. We have two 'lounges' and both of these have two connections so that one channel can be viewed and another recorded or two channels can be recorded at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodeveLibrarian Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 Sorry What is Crabtree catch up? Our internet is very unreliable so we can't use that. I presume the Humax box uses satellite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodeveLibrarian Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 OK - I checked previous messages. Presumably the Humax box records but you can't do catch up for things you haven't recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodeveLibrarian Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 However the manual for the Cahors TVS8100 claims that it has 7 day EPG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 As far as I understand it, you can't use catch-up in France, unless you have a VPN and use a computer/monitor system. I've had sat boxes for years and have never heard of one that can facilitate catch-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabtree Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 A freesat set top box has a 7 day EPG - It is nothing to do with catch up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajal Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 In the interim, with the lack of an EPG, you may find this 7day tv guide a useful addition. It's easy to use and has information on all the listings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 It's largely been covered, but the 7 day guide for British TV is a proprietary system - one version is managed by Sky and the other by "freesat" (*), and if you don't have a Sky box or a "freesat" box then it doesn't appear, and you just see the now and next information, which is common to the whole satellite system used in Europe and displays in the absence of anything better. So a Cahors box won't recognise the British 7 day EPG - it may well do something more comprehensive on French TV of course.There are some "grey market" boxes - such as the Octagon 4008 or 8008 - which have "modified" software which gets into the "freesat" EPG and displays the whole week, but the only official way to use it fully is via a Sky box or a "freesat" box.(*) - "freesat" and its associated boxes should not be confused with generic free-to-air boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jako Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 All Open-Linux boxes support Freesat EPG, but also a more powerful EPG plugin/app that extracts EPG information for virtually all providers from the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodeveLibrarian Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thank you Martin 963 for your clarification. I have now bought a Humax box (from Amazon France; Amazon Uk won't deliver to France) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodeveLibrarian Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thank you Jako 463. Could you explain Open Linux box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 [quote user="LodeveLibrarian"]Thank you Martin 963 for your clarification. I have now bought a Humax box (from Amazon France; Amazon Uk won't deliver to France)[/quote]Glad you've got something more suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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