Hev&Jon Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hello Everyone,Will we need one of these to travel to France with our dogs as well as an EU Pet Passport?Also, I've read in several places that you have to wait for six months after a successful rabies blood test before you can travel. Is this correct? Probably not going by one of the replies to my previous posting about vaccinations which said that it's not even necessary to have a blood test to get a passport issued! We don't intend to re-enter the UK with our dogs (certainly not in the near future anyway) as we are moving to France permenantly.Many thanks,Heather & Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie34 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 There are no export health certificates for the movement of domestic pets within the EU. The purpose of the Pet's Passport was to regularise this. You only have to wait six months to enter the UK following a successful blood test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 [quote user="Robbie34"]There are no export health certificates for the movement of domestic pets within the EU. The purpose of the Pet's Passport was to regularise this. You only have to wait six months to enter the UK following a successful blood test.[/quote]Sorry but you are wrong. You can use an export certificate to bring animals over but of course you won't be able to get them back to the UK without a passport. We exported three cats and our dog had a passport and there were no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 The Pet Passport is not a UK invention but an EU inventionand is used for pets travelling between all participating EU (and some other)countries. It is only the UK (and Irelandand Malta I think) that require the blood test/6month wait. Sweden also have its own rules about tickand tapeworm treatments (required within 10 days of entering the country). A few excerpts from DEFRA Factsheets:"If a blood test is not necessary, or is to be carriedout in another EU country, you can get a passport after your pet has beenmicrochipped and vaccinated against rabies."(http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/eufactsheet3a.pdf) "Defra does not charge vets for the passport." (http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/eufactsheet3a.pdf) "To travel from the UK to another EU country, a petmust be microchipped (although some countries accept a tattoo), vaccinatedagainst rabies (although Sweden does not require this when a pettravels direct from the UK) and issued with an EU pet passport." (http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/eufactsheet3a.pdf) "For EU countries where more stringent entryrequirements do not apply, the EU has introduced a wait of 21 days from the date ofthe first rabies vaccination before a pet can enter those EUcountries." (http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/eufactsheet3a.pdf) "The passport has replaced the export health certificatefor entry to other EU countries from the UK and permits travel between EUcountries."(http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/petseurope.pdf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie34 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 If you read the preamble by the EC at the implimentation of the Pet's Passport scheme you will see that the documentation for movement of cats and dogs - now ferrets - was via a Pet's Passport only. Horses and other animals need the relevant paperwork - I think all equines now need a passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eslier Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 [quote user="Quillan"][quote user="Robbie34"]There are no export health certificates for the movement of domestic pets within the EU. The purpose of the Pet's Passport was to regularise this. You only have to wait six months to enter the UK following a successful blood test.[/quote]Sorry but you are wrong. You can use an export certificate to bring animals over but of course you won't be able to get them back to the UK without a passport. We exported three cats and our dog had a passport and there were no problems.[/quote]No I'm sorry Quillan but you are a bit out of date. The old UK Export Certificate system was discontinued some time during 2004. The ONLY official way to take your cat or dog between the UK and France is with an EU Pets Passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well thats a bit strange because a friend has just bought back two resue cats from the Isle of White three weeks back and did it on export certificates because they would never go back to the UK. To be sure I will ask them if I can see it (the certificate) next time I am there to ensure thats what they have. Aslo it's what I used to bring my cats over with no problems.Likewise I travel back and forth across the France Spain border with my dog and have been stopped several times (not for the dog but for fags and booze) and all I have is my French rabies certificate which has no mention of passort etc on it, it's just one piece of A5 paper which is renewed every year when he gets his jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 DEFRA say the UK Export Certificate is now replaced by thePet Passport (http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/petseurope.pdf).In theory, travel between EU countries should require a PetPassport. Certainly somebody I know whovisited Barcelona last summer (a dog breeder) used Pet Passports for thevisit. Maybe local border controls arerelaxed about things (maybe because the Pet Passport have only been availablein much of France for a year or so), so they accept the same paperwork theyused to allow. My own vet did notcharge for a Pet Passport (done at the same time as rabies vaccination) so maybe worth getting one next booster.The Rabies vaccination certificates must vary around theplace as mine is A4 not A5. The firstyear it’s a blue one, subsequent years red/pink (that's 1st year vaccinated in France blue, not first rabies vaccination - which in one dog's case was in the UK).Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie34 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 It wouldn't surprise me if they did. However, I'll bet they were never asked to show them on the French side.Many English vets are not au fait with the Pet's Passport scheme so probably just issued an export certificate in ignorance. I have never been asked for my dog's passport when entering France, and sometimes when leaving the UK. Of course, it's scrutinised when returning to the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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