TWINKLE Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 I've had enough! As some of you know I have 5 beautiful cats - 4 sterilised females and a young ginger tom cat. Each time I have had a male cat something awful happens to them - 3 in the last 8 years. This morning my male cat came for his food with the others and his face looked terrible. On closer inspection I could see that his eye and nose was damaged and his bottom 'fang' was hanging out of his mouth. This has obviously been caused by a blow to the head either with a stick or a foot, or more likely the butt of a hunters shotgun! He is such a loving and friendly cat and I can only imagine that he went to 'say hello' to a hunter walking in the fields at the bottom of our garden. There's nothing you can do about it I know but it's so upsetting - it's just part of rural life I suppose. My daughter is in tears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Poor thing. I hope he recovers well.[kiss]Do you really think a person has done it though? Maybe he got into a fight with another beastie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Or a glancing blow by a car. If it was a hunter, be thankful the encounter wasn't with the business end of a shotgun. My cats don't get to go out at weekends - I just don't want to risk them being shot. Hope your ginger boy recovers well - did the vet have to remove the tooth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Twinkle I'm sorry about your poor little cat, but why presume it was a hunter - they are not to blame for everything you know! All manner of things could have happened to him to cause the injuries, and I do hope he is better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie2 Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Oh Twinkle, I just read this and my heart goes out to you. How is the poor little thing now ??Have you been able to take him to a vet ? xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted November 17, 2007 Author Share Posted November 17, 2007 I presume it's a hunter. Having lived here for 18 years and watched the pattern of things. I've had about 20 cats since I've lived here. It's ALWAYS the males who get killed - WHY?I gave him some asperine earlier this evening and tried to clean his muddy boot wounds with cotton and 'eau oxygene' we'll see how he is in a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 Oh yeah!And the fact that he has a muddy boot print across his puss! This is why I imagine - once again - that it is a chasseur!Just 'EXPERIENCE' after living her for so long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Grr I'm an idiot...post deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresco Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 [quote user="TWINKLE"]I presume it's a hunter. Having lived here for 18 years and watched the pattern of things. I've had about 20 cats since I've lived here. It's ALWAYS the males who get killed - WHY?I gave him some asperine earlier this evening and tried to clean his muddy boot wounds with cotton and 'eau oxygene' we'll see how he is in a day or two. [/quote]But...but Twinks, when the hunters shoot, are they making a distiction between a male and a female? How do they do that? I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 [quote user="TWINKLE"]I gave him some asperine earlier this evening...[/quote]Do you mean aspirin / aspirine as a painkiller? Be very careful. Aspirin isn't tolerated well by cats. I believe it breaks down very slowly and it's easy to overdose and cause organ damage. I have no veterinary qualifications but I would definitely avoid aspirin for treating a cat.Tressy: I think it's not that hunters are differentiating between male and female cats - more that boys tend to be more adventurous than girls - even neutered males will have a territory - so there are greater opportunities for them to encounter problems. One of our boys has a route that takes him way over the hill down towards the next village. He's probably getting on for a km away. As he's big and a sort of apricot colour, he's very recognisable and we get reports from people telling us they've seen him in the middle of this field or alongside that road... sooner or later he'll get into trouble. [:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 [quote user="TWINKLE"]I gave him some asperine earlier this evening...[/quote]Do you mean aspirin / aspirine as a painkiller? Be very careful. Aspirin isn't tolerated well by cats. I believe it breaks down very slowly and it's easy to overdose and cause organ damage. I have no veterinary qualifications but I would definitely avoid aspirin for treating a cat.Tressy: boys tend to be more adventurous than girls - even neutered males will have a territory. One of our boys has a route that takes him way over the hill down towards the next village. He's probably getting on for a km away. As he's big and a sort of apricot colour, he's very recognisable and we get reports from people telling us they've seen him in the middle of this field or alongside that road... sooner or later he'll get into trouble. [:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Hi Twinkle Hope it is not a human who has done this but perhaps a run in with another animal. HOWEVER if it was a human - would LOVE to meet him/her on a dark night - see how they like it!! My 4 are presently curled up asleep (as I am soon to be) free from danger. Hope your "little tom" is well soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 Yes Tres - like Catalpa says it's the fact that they are more adventerous that they get into trouble like this. My female cats are much more weary of strangers too. I'm sorry if some of you think I'm pointing the finger at hunters - but this does happen a lot around here. I told some of my French friends what happened and it's the first thing they said " Oh - that's a hunter who did that!"I won't give him anymore aspirine (thanks for the tip) and he's staying in for a few days - poor thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie2 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 A tribute to cats, that I found very touchinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb0jxKv0jLU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 He's much better today and is outside taking some rays! BTW - it wasn't aspirine that I gave him but paracetemol. He must have been in such pain and I was told that this is okay for cats - only gave him a couple of doses anyway and I worked it out for his weight.Great link Frenchie[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 You shouldn't give cats aspirin, but paracetamol is even worse. See http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/homework/s95551.htm . It causes liver damage.We have a cat that was given Calpol (junior paracetamol) as a very young kitten (by somebody else). It survived, but was very ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie2 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Oh come on, Twinkle did what she thought was right.. !I understand she didn't want the poor little thing to be in pain !!So what if no aspirin and no paracetamol? When you re not a vet, you do what you think is right....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 [quote user="Frenchie2"]Oh come on, Twinkle did what she thought was right.. ![/quote]Yes, she did.[quote user="Frenchie2"]I understand she didn't want the poor little thing to be in pain !![/quote]Of course.[quote user="Frenchie2"]So what if no aspirin and no paracetamol? [/quote]If the animal appears to be in pain, speak to or go to a vet.[quote user="Frenchie2"] When you re not a vet, you do what you think is right.......................[/quote]No, you don't. You don't guess. You ask a vet. [blink]Most vets will advise over the phone, both in and out of hours. What you think is right may damage the animal. Neither Will nor I criticised Twinks... but we did alert her and anyone else reading this thread that treating cats with medicines developed for use in man is not straightforward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frenchie2 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Well, but it happened on the week end.. I understand what you mean but twinkle only did what she thought was possible and right.. Anyway, the cat s still there and seems to be in better shape .. All's well that ends well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Oh dear! He's okay though and I gave him 2 doses. This is somthing I'd never have done before for the same reason that you don't give adult medicine to children. However, the friend that told this was okay assured me she had been advised by a vet in the past. Oh well I'll know next time - thanks Will.Don't worry Frenchie I didn't take Wills remarks badly - I'm Welsh[;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Twinkle, Twinkle, Twinkle, I do love you, but I do hope you have finally taken your poor battered cat to the vet! [:'(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie2 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Twinkle, I love you too [;-)] and I just wanted to underline that we could have been numerous to do as you did ..( I knew you wouldn't take it bad..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 To-day the schools are on strike and my daughter is out in the garden playing with Carrot our ginger tom. There's a huge 'vent d'autan' blowing and they are playing and with all the leaves flying everywhere. Now that the mud has been cleaned away his face looks fine - yes he's lost a tooth - but do you really think that the vet will be able to replace it? He's eating for 4 as usual and hopefully he'll keep away from the fields now but I really don't believe that's going to happen. Let's just say he's used up one of his 9 lives[:(]Thank you for your comments all you cat and Twinkle lovers[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I didn't take Will's post as criticism, but as important information, that we should all be pleased to learn.I had heard about it before, but couldn't remember if it was for cats or dogs or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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