Owens88 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 >In one test, a brick wall was shown to be travelling at 18mph!Isn't that the speed the earth rotates at ? (Fact dimly remembered from an answer given by Superman explaining why he was wearing protective clothes that woudn't burn but the people he was 'carrying' weren't but yet were still safe.)John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcazar Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 What gets up my nose about speed cameras is the lie about them being for road safety. In places where the number of accidents DIDN'T fall, or actually ROSE, the cameras weren't removed. Why not? Because they were making money.New cameras are going in on the M42, specifically tied into variable limits. Why? The enforcers KNOW that they will generate loads of money, which will be used to place cameras elsewhere. They have admitted it.Forward facing cameras are now the preferred norm. Why? It stops drivers from "getting away with it" by not knowing who the driver is/was.But forward-facing cameras CAN'T catch speeding motorcyclists, a group who make up only 1% of the vehicles on the road, but who are involved in 22% of the serious accidents and who are 44% more likely to be killed if involved in such an accident. If cameras were REALLY about safety, wouldn't thescamera partnerships be TARGETTING that group, not ignoring them? And if they were about revenue, they'd ignore motorcyclists, after all, what's losing 1% of the fines?AlcazarAll statistics from DfT site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jc Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Thats why in many places,there are now two cameras,one for the front,one for the back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 [quote user="Alcazar"]What gets up my nose about speed cameras isthe lie about them being for road safety. In places where the number ofaccidents DIDN'T fall, or actually ROSE, the cameras weren't removed.Why not? Because they were making money.New cameras are going in on the M42, specifically tied into variablelimits. Why? The enforcers KNOW that they will generate loads of money,which will be used to place cameras elsewhere. They have admitted it.Forward facing cameras are now the preferred norm. Why? It stopsdrivers from "getting away with it" by not knowing who the driveris/was.But forward-facing cameras CAN'T catch speeding motorcyclists, agroup who make up only 1% of the vehicles on the road, but who areinvolved in 22% of the serious accidents and who are 44% more likely tobe killed if involved in such an accident. If cameras were REALLY aboutsafety, wouldn't thescamera partnerships be TARGETTING that group,not ignoring them? And if they were about revenue, they'd ignoremotorcyclists, after all, what's losing 1% of the fines?AlcazarAll statistics from DfT site.[/quote]You'll be pleased to here that the new GPS satallite system being putin place by the European nations (the first one went up a couple ofweeks ago) should make speed cameras a thing of a past in a few yearstime. Aside from being able to pinpoint your position to within acouple of centimeters (as opposed to a few meters currently) thusmaking automatic piloting of cars a real posibility, this system willallow highly accurate monitoring of the vehicles speed relative to thelimit in place and do it automatically without the need for a camera.Then the computer can just send you a ticket. I wonder if GPS based satnav will continue to be such a desirable extra when this happens?[8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 In one test, a brick wall was shown to be travelling at 18mph! Isn't that the speed the earth rotates at ? (Fact dimly remembered from an answer given by Superman explaining why he was wearing protective clothes that woudn't burn but the people he was 'carrying' weren't but yet were still safe.)If the Earth rotated at 18mph a day would be about 1,330 hours long. The actual speed at the Equator is about 1,000mph. My Earth made clothes are protected from destruction by a force field emanating from my Krypton physiology which is stimulated by the presence of a yellow sun.[;)]As far as speeding cameras are concerned, I find this a matter I cannot bother with. The injustice is not that cameras are "unfair" but that drivers ignore speed limits. People who get steamed up about them would be better employed sticking to the speed limit. Then they wouldn't get caught. What speed other people drive, and the consequences to those people, is none of their concern. Driving a motor vehicle is not a right but a permitted activity subject to specific conditions - one of which is not exceeding stated speed limits.[:|] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 [quoteuser="Clarkkent"]The injustice is not that cameras are "unfair" but that driversignore speed limits. People who get steamed up about them would be betteremployed sticking to the speed limit. Then they wouldn't get caught. [:|][/quote] Thing is (the point I made above) that it seems with the new “cuttingcorners” procedures in the UK this is not the case. You can be done whilst driving within the speed limits. You then need to be very confidant andpretty determined (and have the time) to force the 2nd picture to bechecked to prove your innocence.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevoraki Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think that all police all over the world cancome up with an excuse to stop you at any time. It's not as if you can startarguing when stopped. Unless your French is extremely fluent.[:(]I don't have a problem with being stopped aslong as I'm not held up for too long. I always make sure I don't have anyalcohol in my system and I do TRY to stick to speed limits although it's verydifficult sometimes with drivers having the habit of tailgating or rather waiting foran opportunity to overtake at the most inopportune moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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