new controle technique standards.

[Patf]

From Jan.1st 2008 several more points are to be checked out when a car is having its "MOT" in France. Evidently the centres are being flooded with people wanting the CT done before the new rules come in. They include brake fluid, brake pedal, headlight wipers, crash safety bag functioning and a few more. Saw this in the Depeche de Midi.

[Bugsy]

[quote user="Patf"]From Jan.1st 2008 several more points are to be checked out when a car is having its "MOT" in France. Evidently the centres are being flooded with people wanting the CT done before the new rules come in. They include brake fluid, brake pedal, headlight wipers, crash safety bag functioning and a few more. Saw this in the Depeche de Midi.[/quote]

Air bag functioning ?

That should be interesting......................  

[Kitty]

Can someone give more detail about these changes?  Does it mean that if you have headlight wipers, they have to work?  etc etc

 

[Bugsy]

The test currently includes the following

Vous trouverez ci-joint la liste exhaustive des 125 points de contrôle. Pour votre confort de lecture, nous avons fait apparaître en rouge les 68 points soumis à obligation de réparation.

Identification du véhicule (8 points de contrôle)

1. Plaque d'immatriculation
2. Plaque constructeur
3. Frappe à froid sur le châssis
4. Présentation du véhicule*
5. Energie moteur*
6. Nombre de places assises
7. Plaque de tare
8. Compteur kilométrique

Freinage (21 points de contrôle)

1. Frein de service*
2. Frein de stationnement*
3. Frein de secours
4. Réservoir de liquide de frein*
5. Maître-cylindre*
6. Canalisation de frein*
7. Flexible de frein*
8. Correcteur, répartiteur de freinage*
9. Pédale du frein de service*
10.  Commande du frein de stationnement*
11. Câble, tringlerie du frein de stationnement*
12. Disques de freins*
13. Etriers, cylindres de roues*
14. Tambours de freins*
15. Plaquettes de freins*
16. Assistance de freinage
17. Bloc du système anti-blocage et/ou de régulation*
18. Témoin de mauvais fonctionnement du système de freinage
19. Témoin du niveau de liquide de frein*
20. Témoin d'usure des plaquettes de frein
21. Témoin de mauvais fonctionnement du système antiblocage et/ou de régulation

Direction (10 points de contrôle)

1. Angle, ripage avant
2. Volant de direction*
3. Antivol de direction
4. Colonne de direction
5. Accouplement de direction
6. Crémaillère, boîtier de direction*
7. Biellettes, timonerie de direction*
8. Rotules, articulations de direction*
9. Relais de direction
10. Assistance de direction

Visibilité (7 points de contrôle)

1. Pare-brise*
2. Autres vitrages
3. Rétroviseur intérieur (si obligatoire)*
4. Rétroviseur extérieur (si obligatoire)*
5. Commande de rétroviseur extérieur
6. Essuie-glace avant*
7. Lave-glace avant

Eclairage/signalisation (22 points de contrôle)

1. Mesures des feux de croisement*
2. Feux de croisement*
3. Feux de route*
4. Feux antibrouillard avant
5. Feux additionnels
6. Feux de position*
7. Feux indicateurs de direction*
8. Signal de détresse*
9. Feux stop*
10. Troisième feu stop*
11. Feu de plaque arrière*
12. Feux de brouillard arrière
13. Feux de recul
14. Feux de gabarit
15. Catadioptre arrière*
16. Catadioptre latéral (véhicule de plus de 6 mètres)*
17. Triangle de présignalisation (en l'absence de feux de détresse)*
18. Témoin de feux de route
19. Témoin de signal de détresse
20. Témoin de feux de brouillard arrière
21. Commande d'éclairage et de signalisation
22. Témoin indicateur de direction

Liaisons au sol (17 points de contrôle)

1. Suspension
2. Ressort, barre de torsion *
3. Sphère, coussin d'amortisseur
4. Amortisseur *
5. Pivot de roue *
6. Roulement de roue
7. Triangle, bras, tirant de suspension *
8. Silent-Bloc de tirant de suspension
9. Articulation de train *
10. Rotule de train *
11. Barre stabilisatrice *
12. Silent-Bloc de barre stabilisatrice
13. Circuit hydraulique de suspension
14. Essieu *
15. Roue
16. Jante *
17. Pneumatique *

Structure, carrosserie (15 points de contrôle)

1. Longeron, brancard
2. Traverse
3. Plancher
4. Berceau
5. Passage de roue, pare boue
6. Longeron extérieur, bas de caisse
7. Infrastructure, soubassement
8. Porte latérale *
9. Porte ar, hayon *
10. Capot *
11. Aile
12. Pare-choc, bouclier
13. Pied, montant
14. Caisse
15. Superstructure, carrosserie (sauf ailes et ouvrants) *

Equipements (7 points de contrôle)

1. Sièges
2. Ceintures* (si obligatoires)
3. Avertisseur sonore*
4. Batterie
5. Support de roue de secours
6. Dispositif d'attelage
7. Témoin de mauvais fonctionnement du coussin gonflable

Organes mécaniques (14 points de contrôle)

1.Moteur
2.Boîte
3.Pont, boîte de transfert
4.Transmission
5.Accouplement, relais de transmission
6.Circuit de carburant*
7.Réservoir de carburant*
8.Carburateur, système d'injection*
9.Pompe d'alimentation en carburant*
10.Batteries d'accumulateur de traction*
11.Réservoir de gaz naturel comprimé (GNC)
12.Collecteur d'échappement*
13.Canalisation d'échappement*
14. Silencieux d'échappement*

Pollution, niveau sonore (4 points de contrôle)

1. Teneur en CO et valeur du lambda des gaz d'échappement (moteur essence)*
2. Opacité des fumées d'échappement (moteur diesel)*
3. Bruit moteur
4. Témoin du dispositif de diagnostic embarqué (OBD)

The new stuff makes sense but joking apart, I have no idea how an airbag can be checked without inflating it. Could be a check of the electrical connections, I suppose. Brake pedal and fluids are already part of the check

Gary.

[Patf]

Good grief  Bugbear - I didn't realise the poor bloke had to check so many things! I've overcome my laziness and found the paper now. According  to them : amortisseurs; pedale de frein; caches d'airbags; laves-glaces des phares avant; niveau du liquide de frein; etat des cientures de securite. Also anti pollution check and a new type of gadget for new cars. Yes these points have to be checked in your current list but from Jan. if they aren't satisfactory they must be repaired and the car returned for a further check. Which wasn't the case before. Sorry about insufficient info.

[Bugsy]

Compared to the UK MOT the French CT is a much kinder affair. The main reason being (I think) is that the CT centre has no financial interest in 'finding things wrong', wheras the average UK station can make a lot of money out of the 'less knowledgeable ' motorist.

To-date, I have had three tests on my old Jeep 1996 (120,000miles) and I have yet to be advised of anything requiring to be repaired/replaced.

I presume that the owner will have to prove a change of brake fluid and I still do not know how an airbag can be checked for activation.

Good stuff though and when you see some of the wrecks being driven around here it can't come soon enough.

[Anton Redman]

<< I still do not know how an airbag can be checked for activation.>>

Unless I am loosing it you can normally tell an airbag has been activated by a large hole where the centre of your sterring wheel or the glovebox lid used to be.  

[Bugsy]

My point exactly.....................................[:)]

[PeterG]

This is how they do it.............

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=537686963646486914

[mint]

That wasn't one Baroness Thatcher swinging her handbag, was it?

[BJSLIV]

http://news.caradisiac.com/Controle-technique-plus-severe-des-le-1er-janvier-774

Gives an easy to read summary of the changes.

As far as the airbag is concerned the main check is to see that no warning light is showing......

[RicandJo]

What's an airbag..........? [8-|]

 

Seriously though is there a list of stuff to check in English out there anywhere??

 

If I have power steering does it have to work?  (Modification in progress!)  Do I need such things as fog lights and reversing lights?

 

Ric.

 

 

[Sunday Driver]

For those of us who don't speak French...

[url=http://www.utac.com/uk/html/ct/contenu_controles.asp]Vehicle inspection in France[/url]

 

[Beemer1150]

Can anyone translate

3. Frappe à froid sur le châssis for me?

My Camping Car apparently has this and I'm blowed if I can translate it (let alone find it)!

[Cat]

I think it's the chassis number, and it's in the link posted above. 

http://www.utac.com/uk/html/ct/sous_rubriques_controles.asp?rubrique=022

[AnOther]

How is one supposed to prove a change of brake fluid if one has done it oneself. Receipts for the materials prove nothing except that you bought them ?

As an aside this is not and never has been a UK MOT item and it could be convincingly argued that if the vehicle has been filled with silicon fluid (non hygroscopic) then there is no point whatsoever in changing it again - ever.

To keep things in perspective, apart from my MG which has had a complete brake system overhaul with silicon fluid, of all the cars I've had in 40 years of driving (mostly 5 year olds or older) I have never ever changed the brake fluid on any nor had an brake failures nor any MOT fails on brakes so it begs the question, why bother ?

I doubt one car in 1000 on the road in UK has ever had a change but you don't see cars crashing left right and center with brake failure.

[Phil & Pat]

Frappe à froid - just a guess, but I think it translates literally as "cold forming" (a manufacturing technique) so in this context probably means deformation of the 'chassis' caused by shock or accident damage.

Any better ideas?

[Mikew]

Frappe à froid sur le châssis = Chassis number punched on the chassis.....hit with a metal punch on cold metal, rather than engraved etc.

[Patf]

Ernie - I think it's just the LEVEL (niveau) of the brake fluid which has to be ok.

[tracteurtom]

The airbag system will check itself,  airbag light on when power up, sytem auto checks then turns the light off.  So if the  inspector sees no light, or its dont go out its faulty.

Brake fluid check will be a level check, cant be anything else, not unless they are investing in some sofisticated fluid analysis gear, I doubt it.  Be careful with silicon  brake fluid, not all its cracked up to be and not as good performace wise as mineral based fluids.  Fit it and forget it, OK, but you cant beat bleeding the system once per year, its easy to do and much cheaper than the silicon stuff.  Keeps yer nipps working !

[dave21478]

Surely the airbag test will just be a check to see if the warning lamp is lit? There is nothing more that can be done without expensive computer diagnostics to check the system.

The brake fluid will just be a check of the level, although checking the boiling point is feasible, as testers are small, fairly cheap and quick and easy to use. This shows up the level of water that has been absorbed into the fluid. To be honest though, I doubt its anything that sophisticated and will just be a check of the level and for fluid leaks from the reservoir.

 

I dont see why people are worrying, its nothing harder than a UK mot.