hi viz jackets

[linhilary]

Hello, I heard a rumour that drivers and all their passengers are required to have a hi viz jacket in France.  Is this correct, or is it just the driver?

[Clair]

Each car must have a high visibility jacket and a warning triangle.

The jacket must be worn by the driver stepping outside his vehicle, when it is immobilised on the roadside because of an emergency.

http://www.service-public.fr/actualites/00905.html

[Iceni]

So if a passenger, rather than the driver, steps out of the car a high vis. jacket is not required. Gratifying to note that stupid legislation is not just confined to England and Wales.

John

[Will]

The rule is not going to be enforced until October, though until then it is recommended that the jackets are carried. Supposedly because the high visibility garments (waistcoats are acceptable, not just jackets) are in short supply, though there seems to be no scarcity in the shops. The warning triangles are also recommended, they are only compulsory for vehicles not fitted with hazard warning lights.

[Clair]

[quote user="Will"]The warning triangles are also recommended, they are only compulsory for vehicles not fitted with hazard warning lights.[/quote]

As I understand it, the warning triangle is compulsory too.

[quote]Le Comité interministériel de la sécurité

routière (CISR) du 13 février 2008 a décidé, à l'instar de

nombreux autres pays européens, que les conducteurs de tout

véhicule devront disposer d'un gilet

de sécurité et d'un triangle de pré-signalisation.

Mode d'emploi du triangle :

Le triangle de pré-signalisation devra se trouver à bord du

véhicule. Le conducteur devra le placer sur la chaussée, dès

qu'il sort du véhicule, à une distance de 30 mètres au moins

de celui-ci ou de l'obstacle à signaler.

Bien penser à vérifier la conformité du triangle :

Ce triangle doit être homologué conformément au règlement de

Genève n° 27 en vigueur. Sa conformité est attestée par le

marquage  suivant apposé sur le triangle :

N'oubliez pas :

L'allumage des feux de détresse reste obligatoire,

lorsque le véhicule en est équipé.

http://www2.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr/vos-infos/presse/communiques/2-2008/CP_14-04-08.html[/quote]

[Phil & Pat]

Don't forget that the hi-vis jacket/waistcoat must be carried in the passenger compartment, not the boot/trunk, and needs to have an instruction notice as well as the CE mark.

The triangle might be useful in the event of an electrical breakdown affecting the flashing lights.

[Pierre ZFP]

 

QUOTE     Don't forget ......... needs to have an instruction notice .........

 

Well I'm pretty sure mine doesn't.

Note to self.... Get biro and write on jacket 'Put one arm through each hole, may contain nuts'

Will that do ?  [;-)]

[Phil & Pat]

"Cette conformité est

attestée par le marquage C E apposé sur le gilet et par la

présence d'une notice d'instruction."

Says nothing about a manufacturer's instruction notice... might be useful to mark This Way Up and Contents Fragile too.  [:D]

[mint]

[quote user="Pierre ZFP"]

 

QUOTE     Don't forget ......... needs to have an instruction notice .........

 

Well I'm pretty sure mine doesn't.

Note to self.... Get biro and write on jacket 'Put one arm through each hole, may contain nuts'

Will that do ?  [;-)]

[/quote]

Sorry, can't understand why a jacket would contain nuts.  You're sure you're not talking about trousers, are you?

[Bugsy]

In the pocket, perhaps?

[gosub]

I think that the instruction notice is only applicable to the jackets when on sale in the shops, they can not be sold without the notice attached.

[Pierre ZFP]

[quote user="sweet 17"]

Sorry, can't understand why a jacket would contain nuts.  You're sure you're not talking about trousers, are you?[/quote]

Well I can be pretty sure that after I put it on, the jacket will contain one nut [:$]

[Phil & Pat]

[quote user="gosub"]... they can not be sold without the notice attached.

[/quote]

I bought 2 in SuperU with notices and 2 in Norauto without (or it could have been the other way round).

[Rose (& Greyman)]

If you're not sure P&P I think they need instructions on how to buy them. Perhaps something displayed prominently at the entrance to every shop selling them .......

[Théière]

I am going to buy some, here in Londinium they are for sale in the Poundland shop.

PM me and I will tell you how much they are, then I will tell the whole forum who you are. [:D]

[dave21478]

I can see this law being amended in the future to be one jacket for every passenger. Dont the Spanish have something like that?

 

[Will]

I think they do. Also, although I haven't checked, I'm told they have a two-triangles law, though they will grudgingly accept just the one if your vehicle is from another EU country.

[Mr Coeur de Lion]

Thought it was a jacket for each passenger anyway?

Well, I bought two jackets (one for each passenger) and a triangle from Mr Bricolage for about €6 the other week.

[Clair]

[quote user="LyndaandRichard"]Thought it was a jacket for each passenger anyway?[/quote]

Have a look at the start of the thread!

[gosub]

[quote user="dave21478"]

I can see this law being amended in the future to be one jacket for every passenger. Dont the Spanish have something like that?

 

[/quote]

An extract from a well know Anglo/Spanish site

What to carry in the car in Spain

The following documents, or copies certified with an official stamp (fotocopia

compulsada), must always be carried in the car:

• Valid driving licence
• Residence Card, passport or identity card
• Vehicle registration
  document (permiso de
  circulación, vehicle log book) 
• Roadworthiness certificate (ITV, or MOT inspection certificate)
• Proof of vehicle insurance

Note: Photocopies of documents can be certified at the local town

hall.

The following items in a car at all times. Not having

these can result in a fine if pulled over by the police, or failure of the vehicle

roadworthiness test, the ITV (Inspección técnica de Vehículos).

• A yellow, orange or red reflective vest. The vest must be accessible without leaving the car
• Two red warning triangles
• Spare bulbs and the tools required to fit them
• A spare wheel, inflated and the tools necessary to change it
• Approved child seats for children under 12 and/or 150cm
• Drivers that need corrective glasses must keep a spare pair in the car

[Baz]

Les you have raised a very interesting point:

A spare wheel, inflated and the tools necessary to change it.

I have just ordered a new car and I believe this applies to many manufacturers in the UK that spare wheels are no longer supplied. Instead they now supply a special inflating kit that will repair most punctures other than a wheel shred. I just wonder how the Spanish authorities will react to this and will the fine be imposed for those vehicles.

I have checked the AA site updated August 2008 and no mention of the spare wheel requirement is mentioned, whilst all other point are.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/touring_tips/AA_Spain.pdf

Baz

[Jonzjob]

We have a Grand C4 Picasso with the kit that you refer to Baz. No spare wheel there mate!!

We also have a friend with a Volvo 4 wheel drive thingy and no spare, just the kit. The Spanish Police would have a ball there wouldn't they?

[Phil & Pat]

[quote user="gosub"][quote user="dave21478"][/quote]

• Spare bulbs and the tools required to fit them[/quote]

There are some (recent) models where the manufacturer does not recommend the driver to try to change the bulbs (usually in the headlight assembly), referring them instead to a dealer.  How do the Spanish police deal with a driver who has the spare bulbs but is unable to replace one when needed?  Anyone know?

[Frederick]

Bright red ones in the garages...... E3.60 when I paid for my fuel and bought two last month .....You might find a stall in your local markets doing them like they are in ours at the moment where they are about  E 6 ......

[Sunday Driver]

Driving into our local town this morning, I saw a car broken down on the uphill bend coming out of town.  It was parked off the road on the gravel shoulder but invisible to traffic coming up the hill around the bend.

The driver was on the ground at the back of the car fixing something under the bumper - he was wearing his reflective waistcoat - and his passenger was on the other side of the road facing down through the bend, waving the warning triangle like mad.  Everyone coming up the hill slowed down nicely and pulled out to pass safely.

So, it works......[:)]