French car, re-registered in UK. NOW going back to France for re-re-registration!

[Howie]

Firstly thanks to those who helped with my last query (as advised, - I avoided the vehicle from Spain!).

Anyway. I have just bought an old (1992) Peugeot 405 which was a French Car up until last year. It was then re-registered in the UK, which means I have the Certificate de-cessation (given to the person I have just bought it from), and a number of old CTs - including one which is still valid for another 10 months.

Q: Does this make it any easier to re-register it in France now? ie; will I really need a certificat de conformite, for example?

Appreciate any advice.

H.

[Will]

We did the same with an old ex-French reg 205 which we bought in England - from an independent specialist Peugeot dealer who was pleased to get rid of this odd LHD French model.. In theory it should have been easy to re-register it in France, but in practice it was far from straightforward and took ages to sort out.

The sous-prefecture had obviously not dealt with this situation before. The local Peugeot dealer, even before we approached the prefecture, advised us to get a document from Peugeot to say that the car with that particular VIN was type approved for France; this was issued at no charge and was accepted by the prefecture when they asked for evidence of conformity, but that was the easy bit. We also needed a quittance fiscale which again was no problem as we had a sales invoice from the dealer.

The problem came when the prefecture tried to determine the various dates, for mise en circulation etc. The dates on the DVLA export certificate, for when first registered in UK, was about five years later than the date shown by the VIN and threw them into all sorts of confusion, although we had the relevant part of the V5 with the right dates on it. It might be easier now the V5C has replaced the export certificate.

In the end, our prefecture faxed the prefecture in the dept where it was last French registered, and got back some dates and details they could understand, so were able to complete the process. I dread to think what would have happened had we not had the old French paperwork with the previous index number on it.

The good bit was that we swapped it for a newer French car shortly after and managed to get a very good trade-in price from the garage, despite having put loads of km on it.

As you have a cessation and will most likely be dealing with a more intelligent prefecture it might sail through with no trouble. Why not ask first at the prefecture?

You will need a CT less than six months old in order to register your car.

Best of luck

[Sunday Driver]

Sound decision, H - this Peugeot looks like a much safer deal altogether.

First off, fill in the V5C tear off export slip and send it to the DVLA (plus the tax disc if there's any unused tax to reclaim!)

Then get a quittus fiscal certificate from your local hotel des impots.  It certifies there's no VAT to pay and provides authorisation for you to drive the car on its UK plates whilst you get it registered. (you'll need the V5C, original receipt and a utility bill)

You'll still need a type approval certificate, so order an attestation d'identite from the DRIRE (download the form and english help sheet from their website). 

Change the headlamps for right dipping ones to conform with type approval then get a fresh CT.

Go to your prefecture with your V5C, quittus fiscal, CT certificate, certificate de cession, passport and utility bill plus a certificate de situation/non gage from the borne in the foyer and register the car. 

[Howie]

Thanks (to both of you). I'm lucky that the original franch headlights are still with the car (the UK MOT allowed it to pass with headlight stickers!). Everything else looks OK. The only thing is that the certificate de cessation is made out to the person I bought it from and all I have is a bill of sale from him. Still, I'm presuming that will work ok?

Superb help here, - thanks.

[Sunday Driver]

Forgot, the car is currently UK registered, so you'll just need to produce the UK bill of sale to establish title.  The cert of cession covers the french transfer before that,and isn't necessary here, but it'll be good to have as a standby in case of need.

[Howie]

OK. I suppose the bill of sale just has to contain the vendor's signature, price, date of sale (to me) and my name? If so, all is OK!

I'll make sure I have the cert of cessation with me too ;-) Thanks so much again.

[Howie]

Just a quick question: Do I send a cheque for 67,38 euros along with the demande d'identification to my local DRIRE office? If so, do I just make out the cheque to DRIRE?

[AnOther]

[quote user="Sunday Driver"]Forgot, the car is currently UK registered, so you'll just need to produce the UK bill of sale to establish title.  The cert of cession covers the french transfer before that,and isn't necessary here, but it'll be good to have as a standby in case of need.[/quote]I'm sure that is the case technically but I can tell you from personal experience that in such cases where a car has started off French registered, been exported, then re-imported on UK plates, it can send the drones at the Prefecture into total confusion. They seem to focus exclusively on the original French registration and when you cannot produce the old Carte Grise the shutters come down. It's the very reason my 2CV sat idle for about 4 years [:'(]

Bon chance, with luck you'll encounter the Prefecture operative in charge of the brain cell on the day you attend  [:D]

[Sunday Driver]

I thought it was only newbies that resurrected three year old threads.......[Www]

Bored, are we?

 

 

[AnOther]

How odd, that topic popped up in my email as having had a new response so I never even looked at the date [:$]

I hadn't even joined then either !

[Sunday Driver]

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I hadn't even joined then either !

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That's OK - as a newbie, you're forgiven.