RustyNissanPriaire Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Hi.I'm looking to import my 1991 110 Defender within the next year, currently it would have no problems obtaining a COC as it is unmodified.However the engine is worn and requires rebuild/replacement and gives me the option of upgrading to a turbo charged Landrover engine (mine has no turbo).Landrover offered this conversion as a factory engineered/ dealership installed/aproved upgrade for owners of the old engines.If I were to go down this route would anyone foresee COC issues? the capacity of the engines are the same (2495cc) the BHP is different -67bhp (current engine) vs 109bhp (200tdi-turbo engine) and obviously the engine number would be different to the one it left Landrover with.Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob T Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I would be surprised if LR will issue a CofC for a 1991 car as CofCs did not come in till about 7 years after that date.If you can get a CofC then who will ask about the engine? It is a bit of paper that you give to the Prefecture to get French registration and they won't look at the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Land Rover France will be able to issue a certificate of conformity (attestation d'identification) for your Defender.However, type approval attestations are issued on the basis of the vehicle as delivered 'ex-factory gate' and do not take into account subsequent individual modifications. The fitting of a more powerful engine is a notable transformation from the original spec which requires a DRIRE single vehicle approval inspection. The DRIRE will be looking for confirmation that the modification does not exceed the original design specs of the vehicle, eg braking efficiency, and their approval certificate ensures that correct engine power and emission values appear on the carte grise and the correct registration taxes are paid.Land Rover France will be able to supply the necessary conformations for the DRIRE, but if they are prepared to issue an overall attestation which takes into account the later factory approved modification, it will save you the hassle and expense of the DRIRE inspection. Worth seeking their advice before proceeding further.This DRIRE guidance note explains the background to the process:http://www.drire.gouv.fr/national/demarches/dem_vehicules/Fiches%20RTI%20a%20jour/RTI03.4_15102008_chgt_moteur_horsproto.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNissanPriaire Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Thanks for the replies.Somebody on another forum posted a link to this;http://www.totalfrance.com/france/forum ... nge+enginethe bottom reply gives more info.I think my first port of call is try and contact LR UK and try and obtain further info regarding the offial 200tdi upgrade, details here;http://pdfcast.org/pdf/defender-diesel- ... ns-stc939dMy Defender is a 1991 year which was available with the 200tdi as standard or the 2.5NA as an option, everything is the same apart from the engines and cooling system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 According to your second link, the upgrade is a factory supplied parts pack intended for self installation. On that basis, LR France are unlikely to issue an overall attestation covering the uprated engine so you'd need to follow the DRIRE route.Mandrake's post on the TF thread gives a reasonable outline of the DRIRE process - courtesy of Google, I suspect. You will need a letter from LR France authorising the conversion of your 67bhp model to that of a 109bhp model which is type approved for France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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