just john Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Any advice on route planning from Angouleme to Bellagio? (and back) I have tried loads of route planners ( Google, AA, RAC, Michelin) and each gives different mileage, timing, fuel and worst of all, Tolls? I have a couple of days for the trip in the late Spring, and it is as much a Road Trip about the journey as the arrival. Fuel or mileage is not that much of problem but the Tolls seem to be almost as much doubling the cost of the trip!Any help appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 www.autoroutes.fr It gives nearly 12 hrs for the journey & €107.10 for tolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Molte grazie, che è grande ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 JJ, don't forget on Google maps you can "grab" the route and drag it to take in places/destinations and it will calculate the changed route too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 JJI am pretty certain that the tolls are due to go up in February, so it would be is well to check again mid next month if you want the accurate cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Thanks Thiere, and Andy, the tolls are the thing, on this journey at around 2.5 times the cost of the normal trip (similar mileage) I make down from the channel port to Angouleme (ie less than 40€ normally coming down, but over 100€ to go to Italy). I have done the route before, sometime in 2000, but I am not familiar with it enough to know if there are stretches of expensive tolls that could be avoided with an alternative stretch of Toll free Road?I was hoping there were stretches of route that could be done Toll free? Any clues ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 JJHave you tried adjusting the settings in Viamichelin? You can choose most economical which will try and balance fuel cost against tolls http://www.viamichelin.com/web/Routes?strStartLocid=31NDJhNjMxMGNORFV1TmpRNE16VT1jTUM0eE5qQTVOZz09&strDestLocid=31NDFlOTkxMGNORFV1T1RnM056RT1jT1M0eU5qRTRNUT09&intItineraryType=1&caravaneHidden=false&vh=CAR&strVehicle=0&itineraryCarType=0&itineraryFuelType=0&isFavoriseAutoroute=false&isAvoidPeage=false&isAvoidVignette=false&isAvoidLNR=false&isAvoidFrontiers=true&dtmDeparture=17%2F01%2F2013&distance=&devise=1.0|EUR&indemnite=&carbCost=1.3&autoConso=6.8&villeConso=6&routeConso=5.6 Cuts the tolls by around 65% - but ups the travel time by 5 hours.Based on fuel at 1,3€/l and 6.5 (ish)l/100km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulhogan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Have you tried Mappy.comI have used it many times and the distance and toll costs havealways been accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Thanks Andy and Paul; Since I've got used to my sat-nav I've got a bit lazier and rarely pre-plan, but thought I'd better check tolls and scary they are!http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance/cs/forums/AddPost.aspx?PostID=2773280Out of all the route planners Mappy.com seems to suit France particularly well, funny that, I assumed Michelin had it covered. Mappy is also better for budget hotels especially the smaller privately owned. all show similar mileage but different tolls, Michelin 'scenic' seemed best until I tried Mappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Possibly too far South to consider but Via Michelin have probably not updated for Bordeaux Lyon being openhttp://automobile.challenges.fr/actu-auto/20130118.LQA4011/a89-bordeaux-est-a-5-h-15-de-route-de-lyon.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 [quote user="Anton Redman"] Possibly too far South to consider but Via Michelin have probably not updated for Bordeaux Lyon being openhttp://automobile.challenges.fr/actu-auto/20130118.LQA4011/a89-bordeaux-est-a-5-h-15-de-route-de-lyon.html [/quote]Exactly Anton, having just checked, a real eye opener that Michelin, that most French of Map companies, could be behind the status quo, and a lesson about the shortcomings of relying solely on Sat Nav's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 [quote user="Anton Redman"]Possibly too far South to consider but Via Michelin have probably not updated for Bordeaux Lyon being openhttp://automobile.challenges.fr/actu-auto/20130118.LQA4011/a89-bordeaux-est-a-5-h-15-de-route-de-lyon.html [/quote]Thank you, AR. So THAT'S why it keeps directing me all round the countryside when I can often see a more direct and perfectly good road than the ones they suggest! DUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 My test route is St Martin de Laye (33910) toTremolat(24510) . Michelin takes marginally under 2 hours and starts by takingyou though two sets of traffic lights. I have yet to find mapping software thattakes you North of the Autoroute at junction 13 before turning right prior toMussidan and going through Issac and Pont St Mamet. That route takes just under 1 and a halfhours and is both shorter and quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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