Ken Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I have outline permission for two houses on one plot in Morbihan. Although each house will be about 120sq mtrs. can anyone advise me if I am obliged to employ and architect under the 170sq mtr. rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Would you envisage it being one Permis de Construire or two ?p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 It could be either one permis or two. The problem is I have aready had plans drawn up and it may be difficult to get an Architect to take them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 FWIW our experience in France is that an architect will NOT sign off plans produced by A.N. Other.Johnnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Well if you treat them as two separate and discrete projects then surely each one conforms to the "less than 160 sqm" rule doesn't it ? Unless a new build has different rules to a remodelling/renovation job.p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert the infopikey Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 You could try looking into Les Castors. http://www.castorsouest.fr/index.phpIt's a self-build association with regional branches and one of theirservices is preparation of plans, using their own architects if needed.I haven't joined yet, but plan to once we have our plot sorted out.However, I only know them by reputationPlans et métrés Plans Nos dessinateurs sont à l’écoute des demandes des adhérents.Après un entretien approfondi, notre technicien dessinateur réalise unavant-projet personnalisé, prenant en compte les besoins et souhaitsexprimés par l’adhérent, ainsi que son budget. Après validation, ilréalise les plans pour le dépôt du dossier de permis de construire. Pour les projets de plus de 170 m2 de surface hors œuvre nette,conformément à la réglementation, les plans sont réalisés par unarchitecte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 [quote user="Iceni"]FWIW our experience in France is that an architect will NOT sign off plans produced by A.N. Other.Johnnot[/quote]We drew up our own plans then got told we had to have an architect cos we were over 170sq m. The artchitect grabbed our plans off us, asked us to take external photos and email to him, reproduced the lot without ever visiting the site and charged us tow and a half grand for the pleasure. We were a bit p****d off but it was the only way to get the permis. [:@]LoveScarlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 At that price might have been cheaper to start from scratch [:'(]Johnnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Tell me about it! I think you can say we were well an truly stitched up!!! The only consolation we had was that we made him wait two months longer than his terms, and he obviously didn't have the nwrve to stick oanything on the bill for late payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempinfrance Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I would be grateful if anyone can advise...I have a totally ruined, roofless house which is impossible even to enter but which for some reason taxe habitation has always been paid on...probably as the old owner lived in a little barn in the grounds follwing the roof falling in on the main house and probably needed to pay taxe d'habitataion on 'something'.The main house came with a CU applied for by the immo years ago when we bought and which we have since renewed , the little barn has a separate CU as it was only just before the acte de vente I asked the immo for one to cover this building too . We need to develop the little barn first as the main house is beyond our means at the mo' and the little barn is actually habitable now...permis de construire application is need just to make it legally a dwelling/So, we are paying taxe d'habitation on a ruin that impots say is a 94 m2...should I be careful to keep the projected surface area of the little barn under 76m2 so that the two added together remain under 170 or does the fact that the permis de construire is only for one building and it has its own CU, make a difference?Sorry for over wordiness and gabbling...this is rapidly becoming more and more of a muddle!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 [quote user="tempinfrance"]I would be grateful if anyone can advise...I have a totally ruined, roofless house which is impossible even to enter but which for some reason taxe habitation has always been paid on...probably as the old owner lived in a little barn in the grounds follwing the roof falling in on the main house and probably needed to pay taxe d'habitataion on 'something'.The main house came with a CU applied for by the immo years ago when we bought and which we have since renewed , the little barn has a separate CU as it was only just before the acte de vente I asked the immo for one to cover this building too . We need to develop the little barn first as the main house is beyond our means at the mo' and the little barn is actually habitable now...permis de construire application is need just to make it legally a dwelling/So, we are paying taxe d'habitation on a ruin that impots say is a 94 m2...should I be careful to keep the projected surface area of the little barn under 76m2 so that the two added together remain under 170 or does the fact that the permis de construire is only for one building and it has its own CU, make a difference?Sorry for over wordiness and gabbling...this is rapidly becoming more and more of a muddle!!! [/quote]Working backwards, If these are two physically separate buildings, with the potential to sell them individually, then in all likeihood they will have a separate Taxe d'habitation raised on each of them. This being the case, I would expect them to have an individual permits de construire. Especially if they are on separate parcels of land (which I imagine is the case if you had to apply for a C of U.)Hope this helps, p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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