Social Security Number

[george0116]

Having had a maison secondaire for the last 5 years, we would now like to live in France full time. To be able to do so requires that I work to supplement a military pension, and after researching the various options I attempted to register on-line as an auto-entrepreneur. Because we are in Deux Sevres (79), this is done through Guichet Enterprises, not the normal l'autoentrepeneur.fr site. Anyway about 3/4  of the way into the process I hit a block when the form required my social security number.  I know that the normal site has a link to somewhere else that generates the number, but unfortunately the Guichet site just says give me your number! Never having worked in France I don't have one, so the question is does anyone have a similar experience, and how does one get the number. Help please!

[AnOther]

Possibly your reference number from your local Impots which you wouldn't normally get until after you have submitted your first French tax return ?

You can also go and ask for one I believe.

I may be completely wrong though !

[NormanH]

double

[NormanH]

Normally you have to get it from the CPAM nearest to where you live.

YOu can check when you get it.

It will be

1 (for a man) 2( for a woman)

xy (last two numbers of your year of birth)

ab (number of the month)

99 (born not in France)

132 (code Insée for the UK)

fgh  your number in the month on your birth certificate (could be invented between1 and 100 )

op a 'key '   divide the total numbers so far by 97, then take the remainder away from 97 to give the key

for example divide

1370476243484 by 97, you get  14128621067  82 is left over  so the  key =

97 – 82 = 15.

Here is a worked example for a French person

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For an English man born 10/11/54 it would be something  like

1 54 11 99 132 032 28

[Chancer]

Mine starts with a 5, I only recently discovered what that signifies [:)]

[NormanH]

Well I know that 3 is a transexual...but by the time one gets to 5 the mind boggles[:-))]

[Chancer]

My 5 denotes temporary, even after 7 years, maybe in time they will decide what sex I am [;-)]

My other digits bear no relation to the code either other than my year of birth.

It appears that I was born on the 22nd month.

Born in departement 71

Birth country 500

I could not understand the rest.

[NormanH]

Yours should be something like

1 xxyy 99 132 034 kk

Where xx is the year

yy is the month

and kk is calculated by the method I gave.

[EuroTrashII]

Mine follows the pattern up to a poin7:

2 xxyy 99 132 271

but the calculation doesn't work for the last 2 digits

(but mine was issued back in the 70s so maybe the formula has changed)

[NormanH]

Those two are fiddly to calculate, and I think that I have given the correct formula.

I used to know a site to check the clé, but I have lost the reference....

[george0116]

Many thanks to all of you, I shall try the local CPAM, & also the CMA. Will let you know if I get anywhere.