Hindhaugh Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Need to produce some plans for work I wish to do on my small cottage in dept 36. I am fully conversant with the UK system and of course good plans certainly assist, but how much detail compared to the UK planning authorities do the French planning authorities require? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizfjr Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 It depends what you want to do. I submitted plans for some window installation and internal remodelling. I'm not a professional but it seemed like a lot less detail about types of materials and fewer calculations than you need here.Having said that, you have to provide some details of increased floor space which needs thinking about. The permis de construire form from the Mairie has all the detail. I have to say that for me the process was very straightforward and efficient. Now all I need to do is convince my contractor that it really is time to start work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Suggest that you go to yr local DDE who will tell you what they need.Johnnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I just drew mine on large sheets of paper. I was just changing the interior and putting Velux in (which we didn't in the end).The DDE were most helpfull. I did a set of before and a set of after drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micksyl Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Just had a quick look at the details our architect submitted A set of 9 A3 Drawings . Received sign off within two weeks . Hope this helps. ( 500 m2) - These comprised :Extracts from Cadastral Plan with Property Marked Up at 1/20000 and 1/ 2500 - You should have these from when you bought the property.Plan de Masse 1/500 which shows the plot and all buildings with marked in detail for Fosse and associated run offs , Electrical inlet positions etc. Also shows positions of associated views. Blown up copy of Cadastre with hand drawn mark ups.As is Internal Views 1/100 - Ground & First Floor - Major Dimensions - All rooms named Chamber 1 /2 . Bains. Bureau etcAs Is Facades 1/100 Outside - Views from N S E WNew Internal Views 1/100 - Ground & First Floor - Major Dimensions - Including new terraces - All rooms named Chamber 1 /2 . Bains. Bureau etcNew Facades 1/100 Outside - Views from N S E W1/100 Cross Section - Showing Internal Floor Heights - Some minor detail on new concrete floor make up . Also deailed section of roof replacement scheme showing insulation, chevrons, tiles etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val_2 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 As much info as you can put on the plans please including all the materials to be used. I've sat through countless committees looking at submitted plans and the ones with the most details are actually the easiest to understand and see the finished project rather than a few scribbles on a bit of A4 paper. Don't forget to put a little position map in the corner to show the property in relation to the immediate others with the compass points in the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0The Plan ManAll the best,<br><br>StewartddMMyyyy0Falseen-USAll the best,<br><br>StewartTrue Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 MickSyl has pretty much got it covered. Although it may vary from department to department, in the Dordogne a qualified architect needs to sign them off (as do you, the client). In my experience (and I have submitted a few!!), the more and the better quality, the better. Make sure you include the right level of detail - the colour of shutters can be a stumbling block for example.All the best,Stewartwww.maisonplan.comwww.gite-les-rochecs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0The Plan ManAll the best,<br><br>StewartddMMyyyy0Falseen-USAll the best,<br><br>StewartTrue Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 SORRY!! - didn't finish the sentence... a qualified architect needs to sign tehm off if the entire finished habitable floor space exceeds 170 square metres.S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELDAV Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Can anybody tell me what does, and does not constitute "habitable floor space".Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicandphil Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 A very interesting subject for me us as we have just purchased a building plot and have the mad idea of not only designing our own house but also of building it !As far as I can work out the best method is to get a planning application form from the local mayor and check through what is required on the form- a set of 4 or 5 forms has to be completed (all identical). These forms appear to be of national issue so shoudl be the same requirement wherever you are.A major consideration would appear to be the exterior appearance, well for us it is as we will live in an old village, which as I understand must be approved by a department in Paris, I think called Batiment de France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piprob Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Basically, 'Habitable' excludes bathrooms, showers, WCs, and garages (and any areas recognizably uninhabitable!). It includes all your living area - including varandas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 8 years ago we applied for permission for French Windows, and the only elevation required was a photocopy of the house as was with the proposed doors drawn in in Biro/Bic. I would not expect to get way with this in Port Grimaud or Paris Plage. Suggest going to talk to Mayor and or neighbours first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris520 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 It depends on what type of alteration work you are doing. If it is just new doors/ windows ( inc velux) it is a change of facade & will not require a permis de construire. Ask for the form " sans permis". If it is an extension , or change of usage to habitation you will need a full permis, applied for on the appropriate form. Both forms tell you what you need to submit , with scales. Generally speaking, the more detail you give, the better, & will hopefully avoid you recieving the dreaded " dossier incomplet" letter.Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Hi,We have also just moved to Department 36. We live within 500 meters of the town church so we were told that we have to see the DDE for any exterior work done to the house. I visited the Maire last week and said we wanted to put in new double glazing, as well as windows in the loft for the extra bedrooms we are going to put up there, as well as two new very large windows looking out onto the fields. The Maire filled out the Declaration of Work (declaration de travaux) for us, asked for photos of the before and a plan of the after. I used a simple architect program free from the internet and printed out the size of the windows. I took this into the Mairie and she said it was 'perfect'. We shall wait and see! It was so much easier with the Maire doing the paperwork for us.As for colours etc, it seems to be (in my town anyway) that you can do any work to the exterior of the house which is maintenance related and not changing the colours to purple or something silly.As for the interior of the house, I have been told that I can do whatever I want inside the house. The habitable floor space will be regulated when it is time for me to pay my tax d'habitation.That's my take on the situation so far. I've only been here two weeks so perhaps the harsh reality of it all hasn't hit me yet!Kind regards,Lynda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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