juliap Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 This is my first post on this forum so hello ! We bought a house in dept 63, Auvergne, near to Thiers, last summer and have spent the last few holidays visiting and doing it up. The EDF contacted us in October to say they wanted to re-site the electricity meter box and we agreed on a new position for it. When we returned this Christmas, we were shocked at how badly the work has been carried out. Instead of drilling all the way through the wall from outside and feeding the electricty cable through there, they have trailed the cable from underneath the new box in the lounge (easy access for small hands - we have 3 young children and have had to ensure they don't 'play' with the cable!) and made a short drilling hole at a sort of angle, from inside the lounge near the window, to a point between the window and external shutter. The cable then passes right across the window (so, when you open the window and shutters, you have a delightful thick, black cable to look at instead of the vew!) and up outside, therby preventing that particular shutter from closing!! Aside from the simple aesthetic issue, the cable is not firmly clamped to any part of the building but is simply dangling and could easily blow around or be knocked. I cannot believe this can be legal and have taken lots of photos. I just wondered whether anyone else had had similar experiences with the EDF - until this point, they have been fairly good to deal with and it wouldn't surprise me if the supervisor at their HQ has no idea how badly the work has been performed.Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I have always found EDF an excellent company to deal with. I would arrange for somebody from the local office to come and see the work and I am sure that a solution will be found. If you are not currently in France either telephone or email your local office (Via EDF website) and make an appointment now for a date and time you will next be in your property. I have always found this method works and they have always arrived on time on the appointed date.Baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcazar Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 <<<If you are not currently in France either telephone or email your local office (Via EDF website) and make an appointment now for a date and time you will next be in your property. I have always found this method works and they have always arrived on time on the appointed date.>>>Ha! I'm STILL waiting for EDF to keep a SINGLE appointment. They have mucked me about from pillar to post. One of THE least reliable companies I've even dealt with. They tell lies and b*llshit you all the time.Alcazar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 [quote user="Alcazar"]<<<If you are not currently in Franceeither telephone or email your local office (Via EDF website) and makean appointment now for a date and time you will next be in yourproperty. I have always found this method works and they have alwaysarrived on time on the appointed date.>>>Ha! I'm STILL waiting for EDF to keep a SINGLE appointment. Theyhave mucked me about from pillar to post. One of THE least reliablecompanies I've even dealt with. They tell lies and b*llshit you all thetime.Alcazar[/quote]Maybe EDF varies from region to region. I had no complaints with theservice from them in Pays de Loire, where they kept 3 appointments overthe year or 2 we were there within the time band stated, and my oneappointment I've had with them here in Limousin was equally prompt; Ialso got the chap to lower the wooden tableau the meter was on so I canput a larger fuse box above it during the renovation. No complaints(apart from the price, of course!).p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliap Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Thanks to you all who have replied so far. I will have a look at the EDF website - good idea - I have a phone number and contact name but, like probably many people, although I can survive speaking french face to face, it seems miles harder on the phone (I guess partly as that means I can't point at things etc!!). If I can get an email address for the EDF in Thiers (the nearest large town), I could then email over some of the photos and I am sure the chap there would then understand our position (the meter bax and its cable do look appalling!!!). We go back to the porperty in mid Feb but, even if we can't be there, our notaire has a key which could be collected by the EDF if they want to visit earlier (maybe that's wishful thinking on my part!?!?!?). Incidentally, does anybody know how easy (?!) it is to increase the electric dupply to a house in France. The meter box fitted (and the first bill we received) show 30 Amps and, ideally, we would have liked to increase it to 45 Amps (the box seems to imply that this is feasible). If anyone has had experience of approaching the EDF with such a request, that would be useful. we have realised that, as the Auvergne gets pretty heavy snow, we need to add more raciators etc (the main heat source is the wood burner but we also have 3 oil filled radiators and ideally would like to add a further 2). I am just concerned that, if we happened to have literally everything swtitched on simultaneously, everything would go POP !!Thanks again anyway.Julia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 [quote user="juliap"]Thanks to you all who have replied so far. Iwill have a look at the EDF website - good idea - I have a phone numberand contact name but, like probably many people, although I can survivespeaking french face to face, it seems miles harder on the phone (Iguess partly as that means I can't point at things etc!!). If I can getan email address for the EDF in Thiers (the nearest large town), Icould then email over some of the photos and I am sure the chap therewould then understand our position (the meter bax and its cable do lookappalling!!!). We go back to the porperty in mid Feb but, even ifwe can't be there, our notaire has a key which could be collected bythe EDF if they want to visit earlier (maybe that's wishful thinking onmy part!?!?!?). Incidentally, does anybody know how easy (?!) it is to increase theelectric dupply to a house in France. The meter box fitted (and thefirst bill we received) show 30 Amps and, ideally, we would have likedto increase it to 45 Amps (the box seems to imply that this isfeasible). If anyone has had experience of approaching the EDF withsuch a request, that would be useful. we have realised that, as theAuvergne gets pretty heavy snow, we need to add more raciators etc (themain heat source is the wood burner but we also have 3 oil filledradiators and ideally would like to add a further 2). I am justconcerned that, if we happened to have literally everything swtitchedon simultaneously, everything would go POP !!Thanks again anyway.Julia[/quote]Julia,Do you have a laptop and a digital camera? - I had a similar problem atmy previous house. When it had been converted from a farm out-building(sometime in the 70's) the 3-phase supply had been reduced to one.However, the unused 2 phases were terminated and left bunched at theside of the incoming cable right below where the water ran off the(gutterless) roof. Over the years the ingress of water had damaged theinsulation and the plastic had peeled off revealing bare, live metal -most dangerous!. I took a number of photos and put them on the laptop,and took it to my nearest EDF office where it was then comparativelyeasy to explain the problem. Your photographic evidence of the poorworkmanship should spur them into action (esp. anything which iselectrically unsafe as opposed to esthetically unpleasant).You are asking to augmenter la puissance - to raise the level ofthe current from 30 to 45 Amps. The nice lady in the EDF shop willprobably confuse you by saying its a change from 6KVA to 9KVA, but justgo with it (you know, of course, that if you talk about changing from 6 to 9KVA, she will naturally talk about a change from 30 to 45 ampaires!) . An EDF man with a screwdriver will come round and take the front offyour mains switch and change it to read '45' and you're done. The visitis free, but your monthly abonnement will rise.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliap Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Hi Paul Your advice is great - many thanks. I will contact the EDF next week! I had heard it was comparatively easy to upgrade from 30 to 45 but wasn't exactly sure how to go about it! Fingers crossed! Julia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Guerriere Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 We raised our power many years ago, it is just a matter of asking and the man comes and makes the adjustment. But if you go above the 9kW up to 12kW (next step up) it needs a new "disjoncteur d'abonnement" for shich they might chargeJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Depending on which tarif you are on the abonnement can go up substantially each year to get this power. All the details are on the edf.fr site.Incidentally it was the best thing that we ever did having ours upped, used to drive us potty when things used to go off all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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