Yvonne Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Does anyone know if there are regulations for installing a small downstairs wc. We own a cdh, and our living space is on the third floor , all the guest rooms are en suite, so they wont be using this wc, its just for emergency private use! I just want to know if we have to have an extraction fan and also two seperate doorways for the toilet, ie: some wc's have a tiolet then a doorway to a seperate hand basin.Thanks Abi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Anglia Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I can only tell you what our architect told us: New build and conversions should have a seperate WC, at least one.Ours has a VMC, as there are no windows, and our plumber raised no objection when I floated the idea of a washandbasin in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 You need only 1 door (even to a kitchen), but you must have a WHB (which can be in the toilet "compartment") and the VMC isn't mandatory, but you may like to consider an extractor if you haven't got a window (for all the obvious reasons...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 We have a downstairs loo all on its own with no WHB and no space for one. I really would like to move the loo to the shower room adjacent where there is space for it and there is an existing WHB - can we do that? Or are we going to fall foul [imaginative choice of word there] of any building regs/plumbing directive? It is not the only loo we have as we have a bathroom upstairs which already has a loo in it.Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanche Neige Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Spg Suethere should be no problem at all with the changes you want to make. We did exactly that last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Brilliant - thanks BN. That is music to my ears.It's not only the lack of a washbasin in the present set-up that bugs me, it's also that I could use the space where the loo is now to make a superb walk-in cupboard and as we have a total lack of built in cupboards in this house that would nearly be a dream come true.Sue [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilks Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Regs state that all new builds and renovations must have a seperate wc, Bathrooms and toilets cannot open directly into a kitchen or food prep area and must be mechanicaly ventilated. This info was given to us by Batiment de France (Limoges) in a 3 hour meeting regarding regulations for various projects we are working onHope this info is of help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanche Neige Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 [quote user="wilks"] Regs state that all new builds and renovations must have a seperate wc, Bathrooms and toilets cannot open directly into a kitchen or food prep area and must be mechanicaly ventilated. This info was given to us by Batiment de France (Limoges) in a 3 hour meeting regarding regulations for various projects we are working onHope this info is of help [/quote]Ours has a lobby area complete with doors between the kitchen and the now combined W.C. / shower room complete with WHB and there's a new VMC, so no problem. Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead anyone.I think the original poster wanted to know whether the W.C. and WHB could be in the same room / compartment, don't know where this is in relation to their kitchen area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alane Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 "Regs state that all new builds and renovations must have a seperate wc" - Does this mean that the shower in Blanche Neige's example should be in a separate room? I'm just about to install a shower, WHB and WC and want to be sure that the shower doesn't have to be separate. I probably have the space but only have one window and don't personally like rooms without a window.I'm also not sure whether to go for a full VMC or just an extractor. I don't think I'm really clear as to the advantages of a VMC and while I can see that one extraction unit for Kitchen and all bathrooms and WC's might be useful they do seem to be a lot more expensive than separate extractors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanche Neige Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 [quote user="Alane"] "Regs state that all new builds and renovations must have a seperate wc" - Does this mean that the shower in Blanche Neige's example should be in a separate room? I'm just about to install a shower, WHB and WC and want to be sure that the shower doesn't have to be separate. I probably have the space but only have one window and don't personally like rooms without a window.I'm also not sure whether to go for a full VMC or just an extractor. I don't think I'm really clear as to the advantages of a VMC and while I can see that one extraction unit for Kitchen and all bathrooms and WC's might be useful they do seem to be a lot more expensive than separate extractors.[/quote]replyOur shower and WHB were separate but now all three items i.e. W.C / WHB / shower are in the same room. Having not had a VMC before I would strongly recommend having one but then we have no window in the downstairs shower room. We have another shower room / WC etc. upstairs so no problem with queuing for the loo [8-|]. All our work was done by local registered Fr. artisans all of whom are well aware of the rules and regs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Ask yourselves the question: who exactly is going to verify and enforce conformity with the normes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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