Michelle28 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 HiWe are in the process of looking to change our open fireplace to accommodate a wood burning 'insert'. We went to a national company showroom yesterday and were told that our original fireplace would have to be taken out (the house and fire place are 18months old) for a complete new fire to be installed. The cost being about 8 - 9000 euros. This seems an incredibly high estimate. Far more than we were expecting. I have been looking online and finding it very difficult to get any other idea of costs from anywhere, this company have been recommended to us so we had been hoping to just use them but on the other hand if it is going to be so much more expensive than anywhere else we will have to re consider. We need an output of about 11kw and they are telling us that our fireplace would be too small to take an insert big enough for that. The opening of the fireplace is 50cm high by 70 cm wide and as I said it is pretty much new. Any ideas?Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shimble Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 no expert but yes it seems far too small normally you will need space behind and to the sides of the burner between 20 and 30 cms and space underneath for the air flow...as far as the estimate goes get a broken down costing there may be lotsof work involved in adapting your opening and chimney space to accomodate the elements of the burner and also to make the installation safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Probably, your best bet would be to have a "Fireplace" built onto the wall and use a Pôele rather than an Insert, bearing in mind an "Insert" is precisely what it actually says: it "inserts" into the hole.You can always extend the hearth outwards into the roomspace to accommodate the larger size of a Pôele.Most cast iron and cast iron/sheet mild steel stoves are designed for traditional fireplaces like ours, which you can virtually stand up in!In any case, you would need a stainless steel chimney liner.For reference, Brico Dept, e.g., list woodburners from circa € 400 to 1.203, up to 14 Kw.Consider Godin (obviously!) and Deville.http://chauffage.godin.fr/Check Pages Jeune for a local branch of Weldom (Edited 07/08; errata), who are amongst other things, fire specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 hiok try this site . http://www.woodburner-stoves.com/ you can work out the cost of fitting from a drop down list Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beryl Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I have seen some new houses (pavillions) that have a shiny metal flue that exits from a small hole and runs up the outside of the house,presumably, this is because these newer houses don't have a fireplace. I would imagine that this would be a relatively easy and inexpensive option. Does any one know if that is the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Just to support Beryl here because I also would like to know the answer to this one, as we have some stables (or piggery never worked out which), which we eventually want to renovate and this has no chimney at all, so are vaguely considering whether something along the lines of which Beryl has seen is, a. legal (eg safe) and b. cost-effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alane Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Coincidentally I was about to ask the same question in a new thread. We are converting a barn without a chimney and I have seen diagrams that indicate that an insulated metal flue can be run up inside the house rather than having to build a chimney.I would be grateful if anyone has more information on this as it seems an easier option than building a chimney if we only want a woodburner rather than an open fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Certain Brico brochues (from memory, Leroy Merlin) show precisely this.From a techincal standpoint, all that is important is to firstly promote good draught; and secondly, to carry noxious fumes above the level where downdraughts could cause fumes to penetrate windows, eaves or etc.Found it! It's a Leroy cat on Le Chaffauge Central and it clearly shows a sparkling stainless steel Conduit leaping up the side of a building and held on Inox Stand-Off brackets!Otherwise, one could build a chimney which is external, but since this would be only decorative, what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks Gluestick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandango Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 We are installing a woodburner in our new house, We bought the fire in England and all the flues etc. We have a chimney pot but no fireplace or inside flue so insulated stainless flue is going in from the sejours up into the roof space and into the chimney pot. The fire is a Clearview and total cost of fire and flue was approx 3500 pounds, husband is going to instal which cuts the cost somewhat. If you require any more info. please get in touch.Fandango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Don't forget that, provided that you submit a French tax return, if you buy from and have your poele installed by a recognised professional you can claim back 50% of the costs excluding labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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