Dave&Olive Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Hi OK I need to put in 3 way lights in our hall/stairs, but I can only find 2 way light switches ,do they do a intermediate switch here and if yes whats it called Thanks Dave Oh PS got no room for a relay on the consumer unit so it has to be switched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 You do not have to put the relay in the consumer unit, they can be placed in junction boxes but you need to be able to access themThey are called Permutateurs and when you can find them they are very expensive. BricoDepot have them at from memory € 18 from a range where a double Va & Vent is € 4 . Leroy Merlin also stock them. You can make on by glueing the two switched pieces of plastic on a two way together so both switches move together and wiring as follows :Incoming wires from Switch 1 : First wire to A-Live, Second wire to B-Live Outgoing wires to Switch 3 : One to both A1 and B2, Second to both A2 and B1 Does work it is how I wired the switch in the hall outside my office. Lot easier to keep track of the wires if you use say Purple and Pink for the incomming and out going pairs of wires. Best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote user="Anton Redman"]You do not have to put the relay in the consumer unit, they can be placed in junction boxes but you need to be able to access themThey are called Permutateurs.... [/quote]How about a telerupteur ? Can also be placed in a junction box.Sid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hi ok food for thought ?? Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 " How about a telerupteur ? Can also be placed in a junction box. " Telerupter is the French name for the specialist relay used with push buttons/poussoirs instead of 3 way switches / permutateurs in most French wiring installations. So yes it can be placed in a Junction box although you can get ones for junction box instalation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote user="Anton Redman"]" How about a telerupteur ? Can also be placed in a junction box. " Telerupter is the French name for the specialist relay used with push buttons/poussoirs instead of 3 way switches / permutateurs in most French wiring installations. So yes it can be placed in a Junction box although you can get ones for junction box instalation.[/quote]I must be in a very "picky" mood this weekend, maybe the effects of a stinking cold, [+o(], but I think you mean that alternative telerupteurs are available to fit in the tableau.Yes, I had forgotten to say that the wall switches need to be the poussoir type.Sid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yes you are. If you read the first post you will see the OP is asking if teleruptors can be placed in a junction box, this implies that they had seen the ones which fit inside the tableau. Most but not all of the teleruptors stocked by the sheds have clips to fit the standard DIN rail in a tableau but these will work when placed in a junction box. Hope the cold is getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Hi Ok Just to say I got a permutateur today from Mr Bricolarge and was supprised it was only 6 euro 1/3 of the price of brco depot . It`s the 6 conection type with 2 tails already wired in... got to be a first for Mr Bricolarge. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Redman Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Well done. I have banned myself from the local Briomache because even if the place is empty it takes 20 minutes to go through the tills. Mr. Bricolage as a franchise can be a bit better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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