Steve Heather Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Confused about electrical regulations. Can anybody confirm if it is compulsory or just advisory to have a telephone and TV point in every room? I am just completing a first time wiring installation in a 200 year old cottage, the downstairs was done by a qualified electrician 2 years ago and recently the upstairs by myself. Also what type of form do I require from the CONSUEL? JAUNE, VERTE OR BLUE and do you have to enclose a cheque when you order the form? Steve Heather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 The normes are obligatory, but they don't require a TV point in every room.What CONSUEL you apply for depends on what CONSUEL you need. Do you need a new supply, or a safety check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 As a confused and bemused onlooker I get the impression that NF C 15-100 Ammendement 3 in respect of a Permis de Construire dated after 31/07/10 removes the requirement for a Prise de Communication in the kitchen. Am I correct in making the assumption that works in hand with earlier Permits would still have to install such sockets in the kitchen or would the Ammendement 3 retrospectively relieve them of this obligation.[:D][:D][:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 [quote user="pachapapa"]As a confused and bemused onlooker I get the impression that NF C 15-100 Ammendement 3 in respect of a Permis de Construire dated after 31/07/10 removes the requirement for a Prise de Communication in the kitchen. Am I correct in making the assumption that works in hand with earlier Permits would still have to install such sockets in the kitchen or would the Ammendement 3 retrospectively relieve them of this obligation.[:D][:D][:D] [/quote]Still bemused after 24 hours.[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Why bemused? What is funny? It is all in the normes, should you care to read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger LX Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm pasting in an article I've written previously: There is often confusion &/or denial about the requirements for TV & telephone (PTT) outlets here in France. Hopefully what follows will clarify things. French domestic wiring regulations (NF C 15-100) specifies certain minimum amounts of power sockets, lights, communications outlets (TV & phone points) etc. These minimums apply to new builds & total rewires of existing property if they are to comply with regulations in force at the time of inspection*. The normes specify that there should be a "prise de communication" (deemed to be an RJ45 type socket) in all "pièces principal". So, that means that all obvious rooms such as lounges, dining rooms, bedrooms, studies, etc. (plus the kitchen) need to have one, with the minimum total being two (for a small apartment I guess). However, this is not to be misinterpreted to mean that all rooms need both a TV & a phone/communications point. This is because a "prise de communication" is ultimately intended to supply all communications needs from the one outlet i.e. phone, computer network/internet & TV signals. How this works is the subject of another posting, but if the cabling used for these outlets isn't up to the necessary standard to take the higher frequencies required for terrestrial TV &/or satellite TV signals it will still be necessary to install TV outlets ("prises de type coaxial") where they are required. As you'd expect, there is a minimum specification for this, being:Two coaxial outlets for accommodation up to to 100m² habitable area.Three coaxial outlets for accommodation over 100m² habitable area.A place with under 35m² habitable area is allowed to get away with only one TV outlet.All communications outlets need to be placed adjacent to a power outlet to allow easy connection of associated equipment i.e. cordless phone base stations, answering machines, computers etc. The same principle applies to TV outlets if they are in separate locations.Don't forget if you wish to record from satellite TV whilst watching a different channel you will need to have two dish feeds installed to your receiving equipment.To up date all that: As of 31/07/2010 the most basic "coffret de communciation" must have all "prises de communication" terminated in a female RJ45 which is then patched to the phone splitter with "cordons de brassage" (short Cat5/6 patch leads). If you are going to that trouble it's probably better to invest in a bit more than the basic box & have one that includes the obligatory 2 x 16A sockets, plus there's usually space to house your ADSL box/modem/router too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 [quote user="Nick Trollope"]Why bemused? What is funny? It is all in the normes, should you care to read them. [/quote]Silly me being lazy again.[:)]All debemused now. Les normes n'étant pas rétroactives, sur les anciennes installations, il n'y a pas d'obligation de se mettre en conformité avec la norme, tant qu'il n'y a aucune modification, d'extension ou d'adjonction.Par contre, si un appareil ou un équipement doit être remplacé, le circuit auquel il est raccordé doit être en bon état et conforme à la norme NF C 15-100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thanks Badger for heads up. The open plan and studio flats now clear. vis-à-vis Amendement 3.http://www.promotelec.com/upload/filpilote/b8041efc-a4ca-4d34-9f31-d9c636a05b67.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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