Quillan Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Unfortunatly I tried to walk through a patio door (the sliding type) this morning while holding a jug of orange juice because somebody closed it and I didn't notice.So my problen is I need to replace the glass. I appreciate it is a sealed glass unit and that the whole glass panel needs to be replaced. Getting the old one out of the frame is quite simple so fitting a new one should also be simple.I have been to a guy locally that sells complete doors and he says I can give him the measurments and he will order it for me. It seems he gets all his glass panels already made to the size he wants. What I need to do is find a place that makes up the glass panels and order direct thus cutting out the middle man.So my question is this, what do I look for in Pages Jaunes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Try 'Miroiterie' or Miroitier' as a start.I used a local miroiterie in Cognac recently to replace a smallish double glazed panel (60 x 50cm approx). From memory I paid around €35.Bonne chanceEAMONN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Miroiteries will also sub it out to a specialist manufacturer of sealed units.Quillan i tried long and hard to find a manufacturer in France who would deal with me and I was buying a lot of sealed units but got nowhere and ended up using a superb company on my doorstep in the UK.You are probably going to get a double whammy as now glass in patio doors or other applications that can be walked through like yours have to be toughened so even the sealed unit makers have to send the 2 sheets of glass away for heat treatment, in fact I think they just order them cut to size and treated and then make the sealed unit in the normal manner.Good luck anyway, it might be worth considering replacing the whole unit dependant on its dimensions, even in the UK its cheaper for me to replace my bathroom window than change the sealed units to obscured glass, if yours is a standard size see if there are any on promo, I bet the one sealed unit will cost more that the patio door you see on promo next month but thats always the way when you cant wait to replace something.insurance claim????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 The door is from Brico Depot and only a few months old so I assume it meets all the current regs (whatever they are).http://www.bricodepot.fr/carcassonne/baie-coulissante-alu-standard/prod9362/Thing is it only cost me 299 Euros and I am getting this feeling that it may end up cheaper just to buy the whole thing, keep one piece as a spare and use the other.I checked with my insurance and my 'excess' is 207 Euros. (why 207 and not 100, 150, 200 etc I don't know, seems a strange figure to me but thats another issue.). So it is all a matter of spending the least amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Quillan, if the doors are still available at that price then I am pretty sure that will be the way to go, in fact I will eat my hat if you can find one sealed unit for that price in France.Re the glass, did it shatter into lots of small granules like a car side window or non laminated windscreen or did it breal into shards?If the latter then its non safety glass and you are very lucky to still be in one piece, I would be very surprised if it were not safety glass but €299 and Brico-depot just make me wonder.I need to replace part of the frame on my patio doors in the UK, they are pretty much the smallest size available, they cost me to buy, supply only £325 from Magnet & Southerns 26 years ago and that was the cheapest price around by far!Shows how the cost of many things has really dropped in real terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 I am going to buy the whole thing from Brico Depot.It broke in to shards but they stayed in the frame, could make it 'interesting' to remove the door? It is only one of the two panes that broke but I may take the thing apart to remove it just for safety reasons.I did however have a result. As I said my excess is 207 Euros but I saw the owner of the AXA agency today (one of his staff yesterday suggested I see him after giving the bad news on the excess). He said I should claim off the person who did it, a bit difficult as the person was on holiday from the UK. Anyway he said to give him the bill and under the circumstances he will pay 50% and not put it through AXA. I know he is making money out of me from the commission on my policy every year but he didn't have to make the offer which technically is out of his own pocket. Now all I have to do is ask my neighbour if he will be kind enough to pick one up next time he is in Carcassonne (he has a van). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Claim off the person who did it? Thats you!!!Or does the agent consider that the guest who closed the door was responsible? Good job you are not taking his advice!Sounds like typical French insurance though, blame someone else,they will have R.C. cover.Worrying to hear that the B-D baie vitrées dont have safety glass but not surprising given the price.I once tried to walk through a side window at Intermarché but it was laminated and I just bounced off it and it put out all my lights[:'(], when I came round they wanted details of my insurance and got really confused when I told them I didnt have any and expected to claim medical expenses etc from theirs, I decided to filer à l'anglaise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 More E.U. regulations the French pass but can't be bothered to adhere to, EN 12150: Parts 1 & 2. Too busy introducing breathalysers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 I know but I thought he asked who closed the door without telling me which I also thought rather strange!I am going to get some of that plastic stuff for bathroom windows and put some in like bands across the door in some artist fashion. In other words Mrs Q is going to cut them up and tell me where to stick them (on the doors I assume [+o(] ). In truth it has not been the first time I have walked in to it but the other time I had nothing in my hand and I bounced off a bit dazed. Had a nice egg sized bump on my forehead for a few days and my glasses were a bit bent. This was a day or two after I had put them in so forgetfulness on my part is to blame that time. I was surprised it didn't break to be honest as I did hit it hard.As a side issue but along the lines of walking in to plate glass doors and windows I used to know a guy who worked for a glass manufacturer in Bracknell. When they used glass to build multi story offices they had a lot of trouble with the secretaries etc not trusting the glass. His 'party trick' to show how safe it is was to go to the top floor and run across the room at full tilt in to the window to show how strong it was. Had a lot of faith obviously in his products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The other way Q is stop cleaning them so well [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brown Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 As another side issue, I know a guy that built bodies for new vehicles I ordered and his "party trick" was to throw a rubber brick, as hard as he could, at the side of a new vehicle in his workshop to show how strong the material was and on the last occasion he tried it with me watching he missed the vehicle all together and hit one of his workers on the head.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowland Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Apologies for going slightly off topic - we have secondary glazing and I have cracked the door panel. Does anyone know if I would be able to take the whole thing (it is basically a piece of glass in a plastic frame) to a 'Vitrerie' and get some new glass installed into the frame?Also, what would I call secondary glazing - vitrage secondaire doesn't sound quite right.Thanks for any help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 As you said it's just a piece of glass mounted in the frame but being a door it should still be toughened, that has the benefit of safety and being 5x stronger than the equivalent non toughened piece so less likely to break again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexter Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 You may also find that the glass is not held in with beading and the timber components have been assembled around the double glazed unit during the manufacture process.This makes replacing the unit virtually impossible as you would have to disassemble all the components which in turn would break all the glued joints. I had to replace my glazed Brico door last year after it was smashed with a stone thrown up from my strimmer. I initially thought that I could replace the glass myself but these things aren't made for repair I ended up buying a whole new door and frame.Good luckDexter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 [quote user="John Brown"]As another side issue, I know a guy that built bodies for new vehicles I ordered and his "party trick" was to throw a rubber brick, as hard as he could, at the side of a new vehicle in his workshop to show how strong the material was and on the last occasion he tried it with me watching he missed the vehicle all together and hit one of his workers on the head.John [:D] [/quote] Many years ago I met a friend of a friend in Manchester who owned a huge aluminium bodied sports car, custom built, with a 1930's Lagonda chassis and engine. His party trick was to smash a small toffee hammer, which he kept on the bonnet, against the car's bullet proof windscreen.I took another friend to see the car, which was being restored in the owner's garage. As we walked in, the owner picked up the toffee hammer, said "Watch this!", and hit the windscreen. This time it broke into thousands of pieces, which flew across the garage.My friend whispered to me, probably edging towards the door "It's an interesting car, but why did he just smash the windscreen?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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