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  1. Thanks Maricopa, we will bear that in mind if the Doc doen't come upto scratch.  
  2. Apologies in advance is this appears to be a silly question. This morning we visited our new doctor for the first time, and although we were told he could speak English, my wife conveyed her ailments to him, primarily in French, with not too much of a problem. He issued my wife with a prescription for the pills she requires to keep her going. On taking the prescription to the pharmacy, she noticed he had only given her a week's supply of one of her pills, as opposed to the month's supply he discussed in his surgery. At the pharmacy she was handed back her prescription after the pills had been dispensed, so is it permissible to present the same prescription again, and obtain another week's supply of tablets as laid out on the prescription, or once the prescription has been presented and dispensed, is that prescription then rendered invalid? Any help gratefully received.  
  3. Thanks Les, we were handed two of the forms you mention when we visited the CPAM office the first time around. What would happen if we register with a doctor, and then we find we do not like, or he or she is not very good, can we then move on and register with another doctor? Or are we stuck with the first one?  
  4. Thanks Ron for your very swift and informative reply. The cover we have applied for is via E121's.  
  5. Could somebody explain how registering with CPAM works please. We took all our bits to our local office on Thursday, and the gentleman accepted them all without a problem, although we were not given a receipt, or any official documentation to say we had handed over our documents. Should we at that point have been handed an attestation, or will it be sent on at some point in the future? Once we receive the attestation, how do we then get a carte vitale after that? Must admit I am a bit confused at the moment as to how things are supposed to work.    
  6. Thanks for the replies regarding my thirsty boilier, and my introduction to French plumbing. Ernie I tweaked the pressure relief valve, and it did release some air, and the amount of water coming out of the overflow pipe, is very minimal indeed now. Whilst we are on the subject of boilers, does anybody know what the price of oil per litre is at the moment, and totally showing my ignorance are there different grades of oil? I have seen it on Leclerc price board at 69.5 cents per litre, that seems a lot cheaper than some of the older posts I have read on here. Bugbear, thanks for pointing me in the direction of Photobucket, I have had a look at the site, and will get around to registering.  
  7. Well, we went along to our local CPAM office, armed with our long birth certificates this afternoon, and saw a different gentleman than we did 2 weeks ago. He made me splutter through the whole procedure in French, even though he was slipping in the odd few words in English. The bottom line this time around, he never asked to see our passports or utility bill, he just took our 121's, copied our birth and marriage certificates, and rib code, and said that's it. The whole procedure could not have taken more than 2 minutes. It makes me wonder if we had seen him the first time, if our short birth certificates would have 'slipped' through. The only thing which I am now confused about, is that I offered our passport photos for our CV's which he refused, and just said later. Can somebody please explains what happens next, from what I could make out we will received something in the post, does this mean that when the 'something in the post' shows up, we will have to go back with our photos and get our CV's from the office? Or has our man in our local office got things wrong?  
  8. You are quite right RH, I think I got duped beleiving I was looking at the official site where I was born in Exeter, which as I mentioned was charging more than the GRO, for the certificates. But I guess that will have to go down to experience, having never order a birth certificate before, although I suspect that I am not the first to fall for it. My wife's certificate showed up this morning, but I am still waiting for mine to appear.  
  9. I would like to join in this thread and post my holiday snaps of my boiler, but I have to admit I have no idea how to post a picture within the message box of the forum. Nevertheless, I will try and explain my problem, and hopefully somebody will have some idea of what I am talking about! When we moved into our property some 7 weeks ago, the owner advised me to leave the hot-water plugged in 24 hours a day, which was very nice giving us a constant supply of hot water, but then when I watched the dial on the oil tank almost moving downwards as I gazed on, it didn't seem such a good idea. So I put a timer into the system and set it up to have the hot water come on in the morning and evening, which seemed to work fairly well until recently. I now have water dripping out of the overflow pipe on the boiler, not vast amount, but the pot I have put under it needs emptying daily. Can anybody please explain why this may be happening. Is it in need of attention from a plumber (I hope not, I don't fancy that phone call in French)? Or if it is 'normal' should I be turning the tap on next to it, to top the system up? I know all the above sounds a bit gibberish, but if I could have posted a photo I am sure it would come over a lot clearer. Any comments gratefully received.  
  10. Thanks for all the helpful information provided. I tried RH's suggestion of 'googling' the Registrars office where I was born, but found their price a lot more expensive than using the Home Office website and paying for a priority delivery. It has still cost us £26 each for duplicate long birth certificates, which up until today have not yet arrived. This may seem a silly question, but are we allowed to visit a doctor in France, without being allied to CPAM? We both have our E-forms, but as explained already cannot register with CPAM until receipt of long birth certificates, and if I understand the situation correctly, cannot use our UK EHIC cards as we are French residents.  
  11. Having finally managed to obtain our E121's from Newcastle, after nearly 6 weeks of living permanently in France, we went armed with all documents possible, both original and photo copies to our nearest CPAM office, to register. We were greeted by a very pleasant gentleman and were attended to immediately. Things were going fine until he came to our birth certificates, when we given a 'non', he informed us that our 'short' versions of our birth certificates were not exceptable in France, and he would require long versions which must include parents full names. Back to square one. Having read up extensively on all things health in France, I must say I have not seen it written in any publication I have read, or in fact on these boards, that a 'long' version of our birth certificate is required. I would be interested to hear if anybody has come across the same problem, or in fact managed to secure a carte vitale with a 'short' version.  
  12. How depressing reading through this thread, so it is only the ‘fit’ that are allowed to fulfil their dream of moving and living in France, any ‘scumbag’ on IB need not apply. They even have the audacity of expecting their benefit to be exportable, whatever next, having paid their NI contributions all their lives, they are now expecting to take this benefit with them, disgraceful. I know let’s go the whole hog, and stop people taking their state pension with them as well, I mean why should it be paid for by the UK taxpayer, if they have chosen to live somewhere other than the UK?   Let us cast our minds back to pre November 23rd 2007, when all hell was breaking on these boards, as the news was emerging that you had to serve a 5-year sentence before qualifying for entry in the CMU. We had all sorts of people posting how they were going to be thrown out of France, all trying to console each other, crying on each other’s shoulder. Then hey presto, it will only be newcomers who will be affected by the new ruling. A collective sigh of relief was breathed from all the ex-pats living in France. They then all reverted back to the ‘I’m all right Jack’ attitude and screw any newcomers. On top of all this are now preaching on these boards, that anybody on IB should not be allowed to join their club, because obviously their claim is fraudulent, and we don’t want you sort over here.   Well to all you smug people who are safely embedded in CMU, I sincerely hope you never have to go through the pain and now uncertainty, of not knowing when you have moved to France, and in receipt of IB, if you will in fact be able to live in your dream home for evermore, until 5 years has passed.     
  13. Well ebaynut, at least we will know one way or the other on Thursday. I emailed Blackpool on Monday, enquiring again why the reference had been removed from their website, but as yet have had no reply, and I guess I won't now before Thursday. We are coming over to France tomorrow, so I will have to access the website on Thursday, from my mate's computer. Let's hope it is good news. [geek]  
  14. Well ebaynut looks like you and I will have to sweat over the decision a while longer yet. I never realised that the reference to the ECJ ruling was also cited under the Britons Living Abroad page, but as you say the reference to 5th April has been removed. Gut feeling tells me that this doesn't bode well, with this government trying to save every penny at the moment, I guess they feel if they can wriggle out of paying DLA to any Brit  living within the EU they will. What seems pretty obvious is that the decision isn't now going to be announced by 5th April. The guy I spoke to at Newcastle said the ECJ lawyers were in discussion with the UK lawyers regarding the decision, and that the UK government are worried that anybody from the EU can claim the benefit after 6 months of living within the UK, and then return to their own country with the benefit.    
  15. Not sure if there is anything sinister in this, regarding the possible exporting of the care element of DLA to another EU country, following the ECJ ruling 18th October 2007, but on DWP's website the reference to the ruling has been removed completely. I telephoned Newcastle asking why this reference has been removed, and enquired as to whether a decision had been reached. The gentleman I spoke to did not know why the reference had been removed, and the staff at Newcastle have not yet been informed of the UK governments decision. Just seems a little suspicious the reference has been removed, with no explanation as to the outcome either way.  
  16. Thanks Coops for tracking down the info on the E123, as you say it clearly states there, what I was told this morning. I can appreciate the lady you are talking about regarding her withdrawn E121 must be very distressed at the moment, as she seems to have fallen between two stools so to speak. The only information I was told this morning from DWP regarding future assessments if living in France, was that as it stands at the moment the receipient will receive a reassessment form to fill out, as my wife does now, if DWP are not satisfied with this they will request she attend a medical by a French doctor, for which DWP will pay for. If she is not happy with this scenario, or lacking French language skills, she can be examined by a doctor in the UK, but this option would be at her own expense. This does not allow for any future developments regarding reassessment of IB claimants from 2010, or if a Conservative government is formed after the next general election, with their policy simply stating that all IB claimants will be reassessed. All very worrying for anybody who considers they are genuine claimants, especially now with the 5 year residency law, and not being allowed access to PHI even if they are prepared to pay for it. ebaynut, we can only keep our fingers crossed the ruling goes our way, and an E121 is granted via DLA, I think any future government would have trouble in trying to tell somebody that in fact they are not disabled, and thus revoke thier E121. We can only hope.  
  17. After telephoning Newcastle this morning regarding the E121 situation, and Industrial Injury Benefit, I was informed that for the industrial injury, DWP issue a separate 'E' form which is an E123. This form alas, only covers healthcare for the injury sustained, and no other part of healthcare in France. The lady I spoke to did not know anything about the section on the back of the E121, which Larry alluded to, and had to ask somebody else regarding the situation with industrial injury, so I only hope I have been given the right information, regarding a matter as serious as this. I also telephone the DLA helpline enquiring if anything had been decided regarding the ECJ ruling on exporting the benefit, the gentleman I spoke said that they had not been informed of the decision regarding payment, but hopes it will be forthcoming shortly. I then proceeded to ask him a hypothetical question, that if the benefit is deemed exportable would this qualify for an E121, he seemed to think that it would, but I got the feeling that it was only his opinion. I know ebaynut is hot on this case, so I hope he/she has more luck that me, in trying to get an answer to the DLA/E121 position. Starting a gite business however small, just to qualify to join CMU, seems the best/safest option at the moment.  
  18. Hi Coops, not getting too carried away here with the info you have just posted, regarding the magic E121 piece of paper. Are you saying that if the receipient is in receipt of industrial injury benefit, then they are entitled to an E121, on the terms you have stated, i.e. 100% cover for the injury, and then 70% ish for the rest. This could be very beneficial to our situation if this is the case, this would mean that if my wife were to lose her IB, thus her E121, the fact that she is also in receipt of industrial injury benefit, could save the day for us regarding healthcare cover in the first 5 years. Nothint to do with this thread, but is anybody else experiencing difficulty accessing the forum, or is it just me?    
  19. Sorry BAF it will mean that the decision as to whether the receipient of IB, is or isn't fit for work, will be in the hands of a private company, as opposed to the decision of a doctor. If the individual is deemed 'fit for work', and in effect is not physically fit, and has a pre-existing medical condition, if they haven't qualified for the 5 year residency, they will be kicked out of France. Simple as that.    
  20. We can only hope this is more Labour spin, if you read the provided link, it appears that the government has only put aside 10 million pounds, to implement the whole scheme for some 2.6 million people. Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/14/njobs114.xml  
  21. Thanks for the reply Coops, if somewhat depressing. Just after the healthcare ruling was announced,  I remember reading a thread on here regarding the possibility of a healthcare provider looking into providing a policy for people with existing chronic conditions. I fully appreciate that the premium, if the policy were to be available, would have a substantial loading attached to it. This would be preferrable for a few years, rather than being expelled from France, if the loss of the benefit came about. Have you had any feedback, from any healthcare providers, if this policy will be offered anytime in the future? The ruling as to whether DLA will be exportable after April, for us carries more significance than ever, if as the ECJ have ruled, the care element of that benefit is paid by DWP, then the possibility of an E121 on the basis of receiving DLA might be feasible, according to other posters on this website. A safer route for us of obtaining an E121, and not having to fear having it taken away, on the whim of a political party. Finally enough said, to the response to my last sentence, of my first post. [;-)]  
  22. I must say Coops, you have laid the facts out very clearly regarding the requirements from the French government, for healthcare cover for future inactifs, with chronic diseases proposing to move to France. After reading this thread it has somewhat knocked me sideways. Whilst I was fully aware of the new 5-year residency ruling for anybody moving to France, after 23rd November, who proposed to be an 'inactif'. I was not aware we would not be able to purchase PHI, if we were to lose my wife's E121, which she will be eligible for, due to her claiming long-term incapacity benefit. I assumed we would be able to purchase PHI, and in her case pay for any other medication that the insurance company would not pay for, as it would be down to a pre-existing condition. Not an ideal situation to be gambling with, but that was how, up until now I understood it. Just to add a little more information to this thread, I am not sure if this has been posted before, or is in fact already common knowledge, but another member on this forum, emailed this link to me regarding dependency of pensioners for healthcare after 2010. Link: http://www.connexionfrance.com/expatriate-news-article.php?art=57 I telephoned Newcastle asking about this 'development' but she said that DWP were unaware of this proposal at the moment. Going back to the topic in hand, just to sum-up, basically if we lost my wife's E121 before the 5 year reisdency period has been satisfied, we are basically screwed. Just to get things totally clear in my mind, this proposal as I think I understand it, is just for 'inactifs', so if I found employment (mission impossible, from what I have read for a 51 year-old), we would be able to contribute to CMU. The other option being maybe cleaning for a friend, who then maybe does my gardening, and then we pay each other, thus being able to declare a wage.[Www]  
  23. cooperlola, many thanks for all your sensible comments you have put forward on this thread, regarding people maybe losing their E121, due to a change in the system, and thus finding themselves stranded in France without any healthcare cover until retirement age, or 5 years residency. Having not looked at this thread until this evening, there seems to have been some 'fireworks' flying, with all the edits within the thread, hope I haven't caused too much aggro. We are coming over to France again early April to make a final decision if France is the place for us, purely on a lifestyle basis, then we will have to take into consideration the healthcare situation. When we first considered the move, we factored in losing DLA, but keeping IB, thus healthcare cover for 70%, plus the top-up cost. Ironically it seems that part of DLA maybe exportable, making that side of things better. We were basing our decision on, if IB were to be stopped, then we could enter CMU via the 8% contribution, now as we know that will not be possible for 5 years. So some very tough decisions to be made. As my wife lives in constant pain, and pops painkillers daily like smarties, there really shouldn't be any problem in her continuing to receive her IB, but as you stated this could be at the whim of whatever doctor examines her on the day, in the future. All very unsettling.    
  24. Well, I would like to thank everybody at the start of this thread who tried to convey sensible answers, to my original question, as I stated in the title maybe a strange one. But it now seems to have degenerated into who is, and who is not a IB scrounger, very sad I must say. I would also like to echo ebaynut's sentiments, that most people who post on this forum to be very sensible and helpful, please keep up the good work. Whilst not being in such a bad position as the people who's 106s have just run out, and find themselves now stranded in France, without any healthcare cover from their new adopted country. We sold our house in the UK just as Sarko dropped his bombshell. We are obviously better off than the people already in France, knowing what to expect regarding healthcare, if we still decide to make the move. So trying to ascertain everything we can regading E121s, if we decide to take the plunge, is paramount in our future planning, thus that is why I asked the original question. Not wishing to be drawn into the now degenerated thread, I would just like to say it is nice to know that 'call me Dave' has discovered a new skill to add to his CV, that being a fully qualified doctor, who is capable of diagnosing 200,000 people without an examination!  
  25. Having just ploughed through this entire thread again, just to get things clear in my mind regarding what you have or have not got to pay social charges on, another question has occurred to me. If the 5 year rule is brought in regarding access to CMU, and if after 5 years you have forked out for PHI for that period, if not in possession of an E form, if I have this correct, you will then be allowed to access to CMU via 8% contribution of all income, would any money stashed away in a PEA or Assurance Vie be excluded from the 8% levy?  
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