CeeJay Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Thank you kizkip, obvious really I suppose! Maybe something to look forward to when we are fiscally resident next year......after 16years of wearing out the A26 and eventually the D999! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerdesal Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 [quote user="Ceejay"] and eventually the D999![/quote]I guess that puts you in 50 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeJay Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I guess that puts you in 50 then?Sorry.....Sunny(?) 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonrouge Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I would like to add my congrats to Chancer and without wishing to hijack his posting I too have been in a battle with the Impots. Thought we were getting somewhere then two steps back and all of that.Ok fine lets all go to Concilliator then some stronger letters and hair tearing situations.Friday 13th a letter confirming a degrevement on our tax of 1333 euros!Normally I do not even go out on the 13th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Fantastic!You will be able to eat out in style for many Friday 13ths to come with that sum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 [quote user="dragonrouge"]Friday 13th a letter confirming a degrevement on our tax of 1333 euros!Normally I do not even go out on the 13th![/quote]Good grief, your reduction was over 3x what we paid last year! Congratulations to you and Chancer, it's really good to know you can win sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I have RFR of 19974euro,and if I calculate the figure by subtracting 7918 then x 3.44%=414euro .If this is the maximum TdH I'd have to pay,then why am I billed for 500euro TdH , plus audiovisuelle of 118=total532EURO.I HAVE A BILL FOR 618EURO TO pay tomorrow i.e.86euro more.--Why?[8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 [quote user="Ab"]I have RFR of 19974euro,and if I calculate the figure by subtracting 7918 then x 3.44%=414euro .If this is the maximum TdH I'd have to pay,then why am I billed for 500euro TdH , plus audiovisuelle of 118=total532EURO.I HAVE A BILL FOR 618EURO TO pay tomorrow i.e.86euro more.--Why?[8-)] [/quote]You have lost me with your maths[8-)]€500 + €118 equals the €618 that you have to pay, did you really mean "why am I not billed €414 for TDH..................... = total €532?I dont know the answer mind you but following me experience I reckon all you need to do is work out how to do mind control like Darren Brown (I think thats his name) look the clerk in the eye and say convincingly "IL FAUT REDUIRE LA VALEUR LOCATIVE DE 4/5 [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 SUNDAY DRIVER 13/11/2009 in this subject gave the method to calculate.i.e.take the RFR ,then subtract 7918 euro from the RFR,THEN multiply the figure by 3.44% to give maximum impossable TdH .mine comes out at 414 but billed for 500euro.[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 [quote user="Ab"]SUNDAY DRIVER 13/11/2009 in this subject gave the method to calculate.i.e.take the RFR ,then subtract 7918 euro from the RFR,THEN multiply the figure by 3.44% to give maximum impossable TdH .mine comes out at 414 but billed for 500euro.[/quote]But SD did also say:<<There is an additional calculation based on the changes in tax levelsbetween 2000 and 2009 but you can basically ignore it as it'll onlymake a difference to the platform of around 50€.>>which might possibly account for some of the difference in your particular case.Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 yeah but 86euro different is not 50'ish!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikep Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 SD's formula is nice and simple, but I can't get it to work for me. I don't seem to have any "abattements" offset against my RFR before the calculation (the7918 euros to subtract), consequently my Td'H is 290 euros more than SD's formula would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanary Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I confess I have not studied every post in this thread, so forgive me if this question has already been asked, but...... I thought there was a reduction in one or more of the taxes for a maison secondaire? But I certainly don't see that on any of the forms I receive and blindly pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 [quote user="Mel"]I confess I have not studied every post in this thread, so forgive me if this question has already been asked, but...... I thought there was a reduction in one or more of the taxes for a maison secondaire? But I certainly don't see that on any of the forms I receive and blindly pay![/quote]No - there are no reductions at all for a holiday home. Not in TF nor in TdH. And it doesn't matter what your income is. Or how many dependents you have. Just write the cheque/watch the money leave your bank account. It is quite literally the price you pay ...RegardsPickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanary Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Thanks Pickles - that's what I do and hopefully will continue to do so. The good side to it is that if and when I am ever able to move across permanently, I am already paying the full wack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestine Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 OK, really really confused!! My RFR minus the 7918 (what is that for anyway?) x 3.44% works out at 155 yet my bill was 475!What I find strange is that the bill is in my name not my husbands. On the back page, under occupants should it not list not only me but my husband and my son too? What does S stand for under 'Nature'?Also, we live on a property on my parents grounds. They dont pay TH because they are over 60, why do we still have to pay when the house isnt in our name?Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Can't answer the rest of your post but what makes you think that your parents don't have to pay because they are over 60?My husband pays and he is over 78; not only that he pays the television bit of the TH too as he is a taxpayer in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestine Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Sweet 17 - theyre under the limit for earnings anyway but sure I keep reading everywhere that once youre over 60 you dont have to pay and pretty sure my Dad told me that too from the Mairie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Well, I don't think the 60 age limit is correct, Celestine. But I'm no expert.Someone like Claire or Parsnips will be along to tell you exactly what's what.[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 [quote user="Celestine"]Also, we live on a property on my parents grounds. ... why do we still have to pay when the house isnt in our name?[/quote]You pay because you occupy the house; regardless of who owns it. We rent our house; we live in it, we pay the taxe d'hab. Our landlord owns the house and the land it is on so he pays the taxe fonc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestine Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 OK, thats fair enough, thanks. Would still like to know how the calculation works though please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 [quote user="Celestine"]... we live on a property on my parents grounds. They dont pay TH because they are over 60...[/quote]Details on the taxe d'habitation exemption here (translation). See the applicable income ceiling on the right-hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyng Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Should I be worried that I have not yet received a taxe d'h bill to calculate? We arrived in July but judging from these posts we should have had one by now? I am sure I can't ignore it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 [quote user="martyng"]Should I be worried that I have not yet received a taxe d'h bill to calculate? We arrived in July but judging from these posts we should have had one by now? I am sure I can't ignore it![/quote]The person, or family, who live in the house on 1st January of any year pay the taxe d'hab. So if you moved in in a July, as we did in July 2005, you get no bill till the following year. That is it, no question about it. But, come, October 2010 you will receive a bill, retrospectively, for 2010. Start saving now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyng Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 SueVery many thanks for that prompt - and reassuring - reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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