Le Scouse Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Hi Guys,Quick question. We are "mid-way" through turning an old pile of stone into a livable residence. It has no windows, no floors, no plumbing, no electrics etc etc.We have gone through planning etc and have clearly not confirmed that the work has been completed.. we visit the property perhaps 3weeks a year to work on it (we reside in a caravan when we do) We do not generate household waste at the site and have never left a binbag out. We incinerate everything in an open fire.Question is.. We have just received a bill for ordures menageres campagne.. as a non resident in the middle of renovations should we be paying this or should I argue it? Anyone with first hand knowledge would be appreciatedChererslee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 [quote user="Le Scouse"]Hi Guys, Quick question. We are "mid-way" through turning an old pile of stone into a livable residence. It has no windows, no floors, no plumbing, no electrics etc etc. [/quote]Wow, if you are halfway through and it still needs the above it must have been in quite a messPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Scouse Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 I've put one first floor in, complete new roof including rebuild part of a gable wall, got a mains water supply up to the house and knocked through two walls (solid 3ft stone ones!!) .. feels like I must be half way through by now ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 "We incinerate everything in an open fire"What, bottles, tin cans, plastic, everything,are you really saying that you have never ever put a single item in apoubelle or used any other municipal facilities to dispose of anything ?Therewill be a reasonable and automatic and assumption that everybody disposesof waste and therefore be liable to the charge which unfortunately itis not based on quantity nor pay per throw.I wish you very good luck in convincing the powers that be that you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I think this is one of the cases where the facility to remove rubbish is available to you and the fact that you don't avail yourself of the service is irrelevent, you still pay into the coffers as the bin men still have to do their rounds regardless of who they collect/don't collect from.Similarly the Taxe Fonciere and taxe d'habitation when you come to pay them is not pro-rata according to the number of weeks you are in residence, you pay for the year and that's that.Welcome to the world of Residence Secondaire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Does anyone remember that episode from the Good Life when the character played by Penelope Keith went down to the local Council Offices, check book in hand, and started itemising what she would or wouldn't pay for before making out the cheque?Hilarious and this post has just reminded me of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyG Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 HiIf only a "residence secondaire" you should get concessionary rate which is better. Good luckWendyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Scouse Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 No, Not saying that at all, although we tend to eat out while we are at the house and yes, where possible we burn everything except glass. We don't use supermarket plastic bags, and to the dismay of many a cashier, I will regularly remove excess packaging from items and leave it at the till. The only glass we get is Coffee jars and these are used for my rusty nail collection. There is no bin collec tion from our commune. I would have to drive nearly half a mile to the "assembly point" on the main road and havent had to do so EVER in 4yrs.. I'm not trying to wriggle out of paying something i'm liable for.. It was a simple question.. I Just wondered whether it was applicable for a property for which we are NOT currently liable for Tax d'Habitation.. given that it is currently documented as UNINHABITABLE.. In essence it is a shell of a building.. not a household..CheersLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Scouse Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTEare you really saying that you have never ever put a single item in apoubelle or used any other municipal facilities to dispose of Anything? Therewill be a reasonable and automatic and assumption that everybody disposesof waste and therefore be liable to the charge which unfortunately itis not based on quantity nor pay per throw.REPLYNo, Not saying that at all, although we tend to eat out while we are at the house and yes, where possible we burn everything except glass. We don't use supermarket plastic bags, and to the dismay of many a cashier, I will regularly remove excess packaging from items and leave it at the till. The only glass we get is Coffee jars and these are used for my rusty nail collection. There is no bin collec tion from our commune. I would have to drive nearly half a mile to the "assembly point" on the main road and havent had to do so EVER in 4yrs.. I'm not trying to wriggle out of paying something i'm liable for.. It was a simple question.. I Just wondered whether it was applicable for a property for which we are NOT currently liable for Tax d'Habitation.. given that it is currently documented as UNINHABITABLE.. In essence it is a shell of a building.. not a household.. Cheers Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Scouse Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 Thanks.. I'll drop into the Maire when i'm over next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 [quote user="WendyG"]If only a "residence secondaire" you should get concessionary rate which is better. [/quote]Rather than "should get", I would say "MIGHT GET", as the availability of a lower rate for holiday homes is not available in every commune (many will not operate this at all).RegardsPickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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