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Thank you for posting about this.

Collecting flu jab from pharmacie next week and having nurse to give it to us.

Been thinking about the covid one and was wondering whether we will get a reminder from CPAM?  Does anyone know about reminders?

In any case, was going to have a word with my pet pharmacien as he will be the one giving it to us.  Also wondering whether we should wait a bit to see whether cases are increasing and also to have a longer period of protection.

Like you, we have both had 4 doses and also 1 (maybe 2) bouts of covid.

Asking all this because at the kinés', the official policy is no mask "obligatoire".

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I had my 5th Co-vid jab and flue jab the same day, a couple of weeks ago. My wife just asked a local Pharmacy and they gave me and her an appointment. Hers was only flue as I have a child bride.  🥰 Normally we collect the flue jab and my wife a retired nurse does the necessary not only for me but often our friends and neighbours. We wore masks at our appointment out of respect for the Nurse.

 

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As I understand things, you’re eligible for your next ‘booster’ 6 months on from your last one.

I say “As I understand things”, but I went on to the Ameli site a couple of days ago and went through the q&a thing, and it was quite clear.  Makes sense.

May well get a reminder to do something in the next month or so, but we’ll have booked ours by then.

 

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BTW, our GP (who is a bit old-fashioned, but no worse for that) reckons that it’s best to separate the Covid & Grippe vaccinations.

She wasn’t suggesting that anybody was going to die as a result of having them both done at the same time ......... simply better to have a gap of a couple of weeks.

Makes sense, eh?

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I got my flu jab a couple of weeks ago, and was due for the 5th covid vaccine at the same time, but having had the virus )started the day I coudl have got the vaccine, typically) only a week or so before the pharmacist said I had to wait now for 3 months ...  so you can go to a  pharmacie who will adminster it if it is 6 months since the last one.  No reminder from CPAM.  Only response to flu jab a slightly tender arm, but for longer than usual .. maybe due to the Covid effect.  GP said I would have sufficient Covid immunity for several months so no problem.    Last year I had the two together, one in each arm.  No problem, just the usual aching flu arm for a few days.

 

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Thank you for all the interesting replies.  Indeed, the Amelie site explains it all.

All the same, I think I'll wait a bit.  Back in May, I tested positive (thus having to have my op postponed) and I did not have any symptoms......I mean, none, nada, not a sniffle, not tired not anything.  In fact, felt better than ever.

Because I tested positive, OH had to have a test and his was negative.  We have both also been in contact with friends who had covid, with varying degrees of illness.  But neither of us have had any signs or symptoms.

I therefore concluded that our jabs/immune symstems must still be effective.  It's about 6 months now since our last jabs but, at the moment, I am inclined to wait a bit.

We have also left the flu jab till next week.  Have spoken to different medical sources and they tell me that flu is "décalé" so later to arrive than usual.  Mid to late November is said to be the best time so that we'd be protected until around March.

But I do now understand about the 5th dose so thank you again?

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I have my vaccinations done at the Pharmacie, but even there there seems to be some confusion about the  the two.

I had the one for 'la grippe' (for which I had received a prescription from Amelie)  on the 25th of October at my usual local pharmacie, but as they don't do the Covid one I went to another one down the road for the Covid  'troisième rappel'   (5th dose)   to be told that either you have them together the same day in different arms or you have to wait 3 weeks  between vaccinations. I can't find any confirmation of that on-line however and a friend of mine had the covid one a week after the 'grippe' one...

To be on the safe side I will wait till Wednesday for the COVID one, but it shows that even the people giving the vaccine are not totally clear about things.

Purely out of interest why don't others have the injections done at the pharmacie? Why ask a nurse ?

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Reply to your last question, Norman.

I have had "my" nurse for a number of years now.  She did all the necessary home stuff for me through my years of treatment for cancer.  Always put herself out and always ready to help in a practical way (such as getting an earlier appointment with the specialist when necessary) and that is even during the periods when I didn't need any nursing interventions. 

She likes coming to us and be kept au courant with my various treatments and outcomes.  So, it's both convenient to have her do the jabs and I also think that the (small) amounts she gets paid are of help to her.

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5 hours ago, NormanH said:

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Purely out of interest why don't others have the injections done at the pharmacie? Why ask a nurse ?

We always have or jabs administered by our local nurses when possible, as I think they need the small amount they are paid more than the pharmacie does.

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9 hours ago, NormanH said:

 

Purely out of interest why don't others have the injections done at the pharmacie? Why ask a nurse ?

For me because after 52 years of marriage I trust my wife, an ex tutor Nurse more than someone in a pharmacy.

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And is she equipped to store the Covid vaccine at the correct temperature ?

Do you think  that a pharmacist  (not "someone in a pharmacy" to use your disparaging term)  is less well qualified than a Nurse?   (Pour être pharmacien, il faut être titulaire du DE de docteur en pharmacie.Les études durent entre 6 et 9 ans selon la spécialité choisie (6 ans pour les spécialités officine )

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Norman, I think NickP was talking about the flu jab rather than the anti-covid.  Certainly I was ONLY talking about the flu one.

Anyway, to your query about waiting an interval of time between the flu and anti covid jabs.  Here is my contribution, or at least that of the pharmacien.  He said to wait 3 weeks after the flu jab or after a covid injection.

I was asking for OH.  As for myself, my inclination is still to wait a bit.  Our cases of new infection are very few in the Dordogne and no deaths from covid for the past 7 days.

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6 hours ago, NormanH said:

And is she equipped to store the Covid vaccine at the correct temperature ?

Do you think  that a pharmacist  (not "someone in a pharmacy" to use your disparaging term)  is less well qualified than a Nurse?   (Pour être pharmacien, il faut être titulaire du DE de docteur en pharmacie.Les études durent entre 6 et 9 ans selon la spécialité choisie (6 ans pour les spécialités officine )

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I will ignore your sneering comment, after all it's just a cheap shot. Get back in your barrel.

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18 hours ago, menthe said:

Norman, I think NickP was talking about the flu jab rather than the anti-covid.  Certainly I was ONLY talking about the flu one.

Anyway, to your query about waiting an interval of time between the flu and anti covid jabs.  Here is my contribution, or at least that of the pharmacien.  He said to wait 3 weeks after the flu jab or after a covid injection.

I was asking for OH.  As for myself, my inclination is still to wait a bit.  Our cases of new infection are very few in the Dordogne and no deaths from covid for the past 7 days.

Chemists obviously have differing views regarding intervals between flu and Covid Jabs. My Chemist did both within seconds, one in each arm!! Not even a mention of a waiting period. I haven't suffered any ill effects whatsoever and can't really see why anyone should. No one has explained why there should be a gap between the two. Patently if you are going to suffer a reaction from one, or both, then it will happen regardless as to a time span. As for the person giving the jab, well; let's face it a child could do it! 

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I think that if you left an interval and you did have an adverse reaction, you would know which jab was responsible?

Also perhaps for older people (with clapped out bodies, NOT mine😄), it would allow the their bodies to deal with the production of antibodies efficiently before introducing another stimulus to produce another type of antibodies.

I don't know but that is my conjecture.  It's prudent, I suppose, not to overstress the body's immune system.  After all, many of the body's functions do not work as well when we get older.

Whether advice is the same for younger people, I simply do not know.  I made sure the pharmacien knew that I was asking for my older husband.

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I decided to accept the professional advice of the Pharmacist, so have  waited  the three weeks, but I have no information as to why that should be the case.

As to the Pharmacy/Nurse issue I  can understand the sentiments of those who wish to support their local Nurse. It may well be one of those things that differs between  town and country  living since my 'own' Nurse  (in fact a team of three) prefer  me  NOT to ask them for such things as vaccination or blood tests since they  have so much demand from other patients with serious problems. They have looked after me between them for 25 years including excellent help with such things as stoma care but it is difficult for them  to visit as they have to find a place to park (and regularly receive parking fines, which seems very unfair) and don't much like leaving their car unattended in our dodgy back streets, so while they would be there if I really needed them they like it if I make the effort to go to the lab on my scooter for the blood tests, and to the pharmacy for vaccines.

I can see that this might be very different in rural areas

 

 

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7 hours ago, menthe said:

I think that if you left an interval and you did have an adverse reaction, you would know which jab was responsible?

Also perhaps for older people (with clapped out bodies, NOT mine😄), it would allow the their bodies to deal with the production of antibodies efficiently before introducing another stimulus to produce another type of antibodies.

I don't know but that is my conjecture.  It's prudent, I suppose, not to overstress the body's immune system.  After all, many of the body's functions do not work as well when we get older.

Whether advice is the same for younger people, I simply do not know.  I made sure the pharmacien knew that I was asking for my older husband.

You pays your money you make your choice!

 

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