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On 09/09/2022 at 06:13, Ken said:

I'm quite surprised that not a mention of the Queens death has been posted here. As for me, well I'm a royalist so I feel rather sad at her passing and sincerely hope that King Charles has as successful reign as his mother.

Ken my dear fellow you are being played on another forum by someone who does not live in France, has no association with France but spends their time on French forums trying get people banned. It turns them on. But I guess even sad people need a hobby.  But I am sure there are better things to do in life. They begin with the letter 'C'. 

So yeah, give it up. Don't waste your time. 

Just saying. 

 

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11 hours ago, DaveLister said:

And then what? Are you happy for her just to be driven out of town to become somebody else's problem or would you rather ( as some have suggested on social media ) a more permanent solution?

Events involving 'torches and pitchforks' rarely end well.

Nice try at putting words into my mouth that I didn't utter.

It will suffice that the lady in question has "p*ssed on her chips" big time - Her Ratner moment!

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11 hours ago, alittlebitfrench said:

Ken my dear fellow you are being played on another forum by someone who does not live in France, has no association with France but spends their time on French forums trying get people banned. It turns them on. But I guess even sad people need a hobby.  But I am sure there are better things to do in life. They begin with the letter 'C'. 

So yeah, give it up. Don't waste your time. 

Just saying. 

 

ALFB.

        Thanks for that. I always appreciate advice. I understand  why you say that someone is just creating mischief and possibly trying to 'get me banned'! For me, I don't like to just allow people to say what they like without challenging it; a fault maybe. It has happened here when some have made remarks that have insulted but tried to be seen as 'just comment' and not meant to be snide. It is always the same people and quite honestly I'm always amazed that often others seem to endorse them! Anyway thanks again and 10 out of 10 for observation.

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20 hours ago, Loiseau said:

Loiseau, yes, I thought so too.  He spoke so well and sounded sincere (well, appearances do matter, don't they?) and his English was on the whole excellent.  Vive le Président, Vive la France!

I love both countries and I was so glad that Macron signaled a  respectful and friendly regard and was perfectly dignified unlike Liz Truss who recently called France "a foe".  I wish she'd stop being and sounding such  robotic dumbo

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3 minutes ago, menthe said:

Loiseau, yes, I thought so too.  He spoke so well and sounded sincere (well, appearances do matter, don't they?) and his English was on the whole excellent.  Vive le Président, Vive la France!

I love both countries and I was so glad that Macron signaled a  respectful and friendly regard and was perfectly dignified unlike Liz Truss who recently called France "a foe".  I wish she'd stop being and sounding such  robotic dumbo

Not quite what Truss said, her exact words on being asked whether Macron was a friend or foe were 'the jury's still out'.

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2 minutes ago, menthe said:

Loiseau, yes, I thought so too.  He spoke so well and sounded sincere (well, appearances do matter, don't they?) and his English was on the whole excellent.  Vive le Président, Vive la France!

I love both countries and I was so glad that Macron signaled a  respectful and friendly regard and was perfectly dignified unlike Liz Truss who recently called France "a foe".  I wish she'd stop being and sounding such  robotic dumbo

 

2 minutes ago, menthe said:

Loiseau, yes, I thought so too.  He spoke so well and sounded sincere (well, appearances do matter, don't they?) and his English was on the whole excellent.  Vive le Président, Vive la France!

I love both countries and I was so glad that Macron signaled a  respectful and friendly regard and was perfectly dignified unlike Liz Truss who recently called France "a foe".  I wish she'd stop being and sounding such  robotic dumbo

It was for Macron to say what he did, he could hardly say anything else without being offensive and this occasion isn't the time to be offensive towards Britain. As for Liz Truss, quite obviously you don't like her and revert to insults as the default. As far as I'm aware and I stand to be corrected, she didn't call France a 'foe' at all. Still, don't let the truth stand in the way of a bit of bitterness! Personally I think she is off to a good start in trying to look after Britain.

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3 hours ago, DraytonBoy said:

I think Truss is dreadful and shouldn't be in government let alone as the head but she is so we'll just have to judge her on her performance over the next two years. 

Rather strange that think that you think so ill of Liz Trust then go on to say she needs to be judged over the next two years! Obviously you don't think there is any contradiction or indeed, anything wrong with that statement? 

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47 minutes ago, Ken said:

Rather strange that think that you think so ill of Liz Trust then go on to say she needs to be judged over the next two years! Obviously you don't think there is any contradiction or indeed, anything wrong with that statement? 

No contradiction at all, my opinion of her is based on her record as a cabinet minister in various positions and because of that I don't believe she is fit to lead the country. However, she put herself forward and she may surprise me and the vast majority of the UK public and actually do the job better than her predecessor (which shouldn't be too hard), my hopes aren't high though.

There is such a dearth of able politicians now in the UK, the likes of Truss wouldn't have got anywhere near the top job 20 years ago.

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DB, just to correct what I think Liz Truss said.  I did, like you, hear her say that the jury was still out but, right at the end of the clip and as the camera panned out, she said "foe".

And I am not the only person to hear that.  From what I have read elsewhere, other people were commenting on that as well.

As to Ken, not sure I could bother to fend off your combative remarks.  And no, I am not in the least bitter.  Bitter about some politician who mainly does not feature much in my day-to-day live?  I wouldn't give her the time of day....,   

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13 hours ago, DraytonBoy said:

No contradiction at all, my opinion of her is based on her record as a cabinet minister in various positions and because of that I don't believe she is fit to lead the country. However, she put herself forward and she may surprise me and the vast majority of the UK public and actually do the job better than her predecessor (which shouldn't be too hard), my hopes aren't high though.

There is such a dearth of able politicians now in the UK, the likes of Truss wouldn't have got anywhere near the top job 20 years ago.

You have already judged her. You have said so! You then say you want to judge her again!!! Quite obviously you have followed her career and know all of her appointments in detail and how good, or bad she was! 

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13 hours ago, menthe said:

DB, just to correct what I think Liz Truss said.  I did, like you, hear her say that the jury was still out but, right at the end of the clip and as the camera panned out, she said "foe".

And I am not the only person to hear that.  From what I have read elsewhere, other people were commenting on that as well.

As to Ken, not sure I could bother to fend off your combative remarks.  And no, I am not in the least bitter.  Bitter about some politician who mainly does not feature much in my day-to-day live?  I wouldn't give her the time of day....,   

 

13 hours ago, menthe said:

DB, just to correct what I think Liz Truss said.  I did, like you, hear her say that the jury was still out but, right at the end of the clip and as the camera panned out, she said "foe".

And I am not the only person to hear that.  From what I have read elsewhere, other people were commenting on that as well.

As to Ken, not sure I could bother to fend off your combative remarks.  And no, I am not in the least bitter.  Bitter about some politician who mainly does not feature much in my day-to-day live?  I wouldn't give her the time of day....,   

Ah, that was it then, you misheard!!! I knew there had to be a logical explanation. And no you don't sound bitter at all!

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23 hours ago, Ken said:

You have already judged her. You have said so! You then say you want to judge her again!!! Quite obviously you have followed her career and know all of her appointments in detail and how good, or bad she was! 

I have followed her career because she's a Norfolk MP which is my home county, if you look at the new cabinet it is now stuffed with her best buddies in parliament who belong to the 'East Anglian mafia' a term widely used at Westminster to describe the block of MP's representing the region.

All Truss has done so far is make a speech about cheese and be photographed sat on a tank trying to imitate Thatcher, if you think that makes her suitable PM material then god help the country.   

 

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On 12/09/2022 at 10:05, DraytonBoy said:

Not quite what Truss said, her exact words on being asked whether Macron was a friend or foe were 'the jury's still out'.

Anyone with a grasp on reality will realise that the question reveals far more about the interviewer than the interviewee.

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" As for Liz Truss, quite obviously you don't like her and revert to insults as the default. As far as I'm aware and I stand to be corrected, she didn't call France a 'foe' at all. " [Ken]

"Friend or foe?" - "The jury's out". So what do you think that meant other than an appeal to gammon FPTP to Leader/PM?

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On 14/09/2022 at 07:13, DraytonBoy said:

 

All Truss has done so far is make a speech about cheese and be photographed sat on a tank trying to imitate Thatcher, if you think that makes her suitable PM material then god help the country.   

 

I'd be the first to admit that Truss is something of an unknown quantity to me.    But to say that all she has done other than  make a speech about cheese suggests that you haven't perhaps been paying attention.     At the lunchtime of the day the Queen died she announced more useful policies in an hour than we've heard in the last 18 months,    a British "tarif bouclier" and the re-starting of fracking being just two.  

As to her comments about Macron,    many of us would entirely agree with her measured remark about the jury being out.    In my lifetime I have never known anyone - claiming to be a friend - attempt to do so much damage to Britain,   and I for one will never forgive him.   Rubbishing the vaccine (and still refusing to admit he told lies about it),   threatening to cut off electricity to the Channel Islands,   supporting the invoking of the suspension of the NI protocol over vaccines,    using Beaune as a constant attack dog against us whenever he couldn't be bothered to do the job himself,   playing the constant bad cop against us in the Brexit process,   need I go on...

Macron has undone Anglo-French relations to such an extent that I doubt they will recover in my lifetime.   Even I - a lifelong lover of France *and* its people -  no longer rush to their aid when someone cracks a joke about them,   and I no longer buy French products.    I will review my stance when Macron goes,   but in the meantime I would urge any British politician not to trust France or its president until 2027.

I know,   an extreme position,   and I never EVER thought I would come to feel anything like this level of animosity.   It grieves me,    but Macron is the culprit,    the only culprit.

The only thing I would say about his utterances on the Queen is at least he recognises quality,   and perhaps is dimly aware now after his election humiliations and his current political weakness that he will never EVER be fit even to wipe Her Shoes.

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On 15/09/2022 at 09:47, Martin963 said:

I'd be the first to admit that Truss is something of an unknown quantity to me.    But to say that all she has done other than  make a speech about cheese suggests that you haven't perhaps been paying attention.     At the lunchtime of the day the Queen died she announced more useful policies in an hour than we've heard in the last 18 months,    a British "tarif bouclier" and the re-starting of fracking being just two.  

As to her comments about Macron,    many of us would entirely agree with her measured remark about the jury being out.    In my lifetime I have never known anyone - claiming to be a friend - attempt to do so much damage to Britain,   and I for one will never forgive him.   Rubbishing the vaccine (and still refusing to admit he told lies about it),   threatening to cut off electricity to the Channel Islands,   supporting the invoking of the suspension of the NI protocol over vaccines,    using Beaune as a constant attack dog against us whenever he couldn't be bothered to do the job himself,   playing the constant bad cop against us in the Brexit process,   need I go on...

Macron has undone Anglo-French relations to such an extent that I doubt they will recover in my lifetime.   Even I - a lifelong lover of France *and* its people -  no longer rush to their aid when someone cracks a joke about them,   and I no longer buy French products.    I will review my stance when Macron goes,   but in the meantime I would urge any British politician not to trust France or its president until 2027.

I know,   an extreme position,   and I never EVER thought I would come to feel anything like this level of animosity.   It grieves me,    but Macron is the culprit,    the only culprit.

The only thing I would say about his utterances on the Queen is at least he recognises quality,   and perhaps is dimly aware now after his election humiliations and his current political weakness that he will never EVER be fit even to wipe Her Shoes.

Now it would appear she wants to bring back opening of Grammar Schools, it gets better and better; though not if you have socialist tendencies of course!!! Grammar schools though stopped opening by Labour didn't stop the socialist elite sending their kids to Private schools! The plebs would have to make do with comprehensive! Well done Liz.

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