Chancer Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Thats the one Pascua-Lama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 For those who, like me, don't read Spanish:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/09/drill-reaches-trapped-chilean-minersThere's a lot more international interest building up now. There was a very good piece yesterday about the trapped men and their families - some embarassing secrets have been coming out of the woodwork as those close to them gather at the drill site. At least with modern technology we know they are down there and that they remain alive. In the old mine disasters people dug for days and weeks sometimes, knowing that most of the time they would only bring up corpses. A way of life in the kind of mining village where my father and his ancestors grew up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 For those who dont like to read in spanish, an interesting press release on the Schramm T-130, featured in Market Watch of the Wall Street Journal.http://www.marketwatch.com/story/layne-christensen-drillers-reach-trapped-miners-in-chile-2010-10-10?reflink=MW_news_stmpSundays crop of pictures 25 from e-mol mundo grafico showing casing assembly and activities at Campo Esperanza.http://www.emol.com/mundografico/?G_ID=16090 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 It's not that I don't like, simply that I cannot (English, French and a smattering of German are my limits, I'm afraid.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote user="cooperlola"]It's not that I don't like, simply that I cannot (English, French and a smattering of German are my limits, I'm afraid.)[/quote]Its similar to french and a lot easier than german.Give it a try![I] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote user="Chancer"]Thats the one Pascua-Lama.[/quote]By 1977 the presence of gold on the Chilean Argentina border was well prospected but the arrest of Isabel Péron and the establishment of the Military Junta meant that exploitation of any cross-border deposits was a no-no. The Beagle Dispute made things even worse and effectively closed off anything on the border. The St Joe International in this period pushed forward with the El Indio deposit, a much richer resource with plenty of visible gold; the ore dug straight from the DSO stopes in the mine was placed steel drums and welded. Batches were then taken down under armed guard periodically to Coquimbo for Direct Shipping to the USA. In 1982 during the Falklands War period I took time out from the company's Argentinian Operations and spent time doing a detailed budget, production and manpower planning analysis for the company. An interesting area to work in but tough on top of the Cordillera at -40°C.[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 [quote user="pachapapa"][quote user="cooperlola"]It's not that I don't like, simply that I cannot (English, French and a smattering of German are my limits, I'm afraid.)[/quote]Its similar to french and a lot easier than german.Give it a try![I][/quote]I was pleasantly surprised that I coud follow the article, I certainly would not have been able to after my intensive course in Spanish and my period in Latin America.It can only be due the similarity of many French and Spanish words, reading the article a I recognised a few of the principle verbs that must be lodged in my memory, cant even recall them now but "to do" , "to be", "to have", "to be able", "to want" etc but the rest must have been from my subsequent Frecnh learning.It has always been my intention to learn Spanish after being proficient in French, that day is not far off now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 At last a rescuer has made it down there! A great achievement, and very moving! [:D]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Edit: The first miner has reached the surface; what a day! [:)]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11518015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 With an anticipated rescue rate of 1 per hour why send the fittest person first ?BTW I didn't spot Max Cliiford in the crowd but I'm sure he will be there somewhere, contracts in hand.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 They sent the fittest three first in case there was a problem with the mechanism. The fourth and some after him are the ones who have found it the hardest going down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Isn't it ironic that the miners are being liberated on Thatcher's 85th birthday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 It's worse than watching Lassie Come Home.I'm a wreck - been here blubbing for about 3 hours now .....Still, can't seem to take myself away from the live CNS footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Great to have some truly good news for a change. Restores one's faith in one's fellow human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Yes it does - of course it sounds like a cliche; but it does put things like 'OMG my tax fonciere has increased' (!!!) into perspective somewhat.Fingers crossed for the rest of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Iwatched the first man come up in this morning and , have found myselfdrawn back to the live SKY / BBC TV coverage ofthe rescue again and again , hoping that they will all emerge safelyand be ableto recover fully from their ordeal over the coming weeks and months.Sofar so good as , 8 miners have been rescued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 A very heartening story with an excellent outcome.Firstly the drilling to locate them, then the drilling of the holes for the rescue and today the culmination of all of this with the start of the rescues.The emotional reunions with their families and the potential for psychological problems to come.[:)] I wonder if the miner whose wife AND mistress turned up at the mine wants to be rescued [:)]I also wonder what would have happened in other countries in the World?Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valB Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I have been glued to the TV all morning. What an incredible achievement and I pray that they all get safely out of the prison they hve been trapped in for so long. Such brave men !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 [quote user="Gardener"]They sent the fittest three first in case there was a problem with the mechanism. The fourth and some after him are the ones who have found it the hardest going down there.[/quote]Hence the old saying "survival of the fittest".John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 [quote user="londoneye"]Yes it does - of course it sounds like a cliche; but it does put things like 'OMG my tax fonciere has increased' (!!!) into perspective somewhat. [/quote]Not really, increases in taxe fonc. affect me far more than news of miners stuck in a hole in Chile.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 [quote user="Iceni"]With an anticipated rescue rate of 1 per hour why send the fittest person first ?BTW I didn't spot Max Cliiford in the crowd but I'm sure he will be there somewhere, contracts in hand.John[/quote]In the event of the cage getting stuck, the lower portion can be detached from the upper portion and the lower portion lowered again to the underground chamber. Although you may have the impression that the hoist rope is attached to the top of the cage the rope passes freely through the top portion. The freeing of the two portions requires some physical effort on the part of the passenger; a younger fitter person would find the declutching easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 The thing to be would be the last one left down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Won't the last one up be the medic who went down this morning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Extraordinary rescue.Just watched the 27th miner rescued !There are 4/5 members of the rescue team down there at the moment and yes, they (one of them ) will be last .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 While I was re-reading the thread about Sweet and Gem, the last of the miners was brought up! [:D] I'd been watching through the small hours - it has been thrilling! Their rescuers have been wonderful, and what fortitude their families have shown. I wish those men all the very best in the future - their survival and rescue has been incredible, but they will have difficulties to face in the future, too - just very different ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Once you had seen one brought out all the others were just repeats so no need to watch........But no, such a draw, could not stop watching.Good to have a prominent good news story for a change.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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