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David Cameron has now resigned as an MP.............


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with immediate effect.

So no more questions about Brexit or anything else, no more being held to account for any of the dreadful things he'd done, but still the lovely jubbly pension, the security detail and the freedom to indulge in whatever money-making activities that will now doubtless fall on his lap..........oh, goody, goody!

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David Cameron began a job that had to be done. But his one big gamble he lost. He forgot how fickle the electorate can be.

I dont believe that former prime ministers should hang around in Parliament. It is not good for them or for their successors.

If he manages to make a few bob elsewhere, then good luck to him. I dont understand the jealous, vindictive streak which hates him for this.

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I take it your utube reference concerns yet another load of left wing drivel from Mr Roach, the arch-commy and film maker of misery and tears.

How about the people who have remade their lives and pulled out of their s*it, has he never bothered to film them getting on? No, of course not, because he has a single, miserable, political agenda and no artistic merit, even if he manages to get discredited old awards from the luvvie ( heavily state subsidised) coven at Cannes.
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I'm fascinated by the reaction to this. If you hate Cameron, is it easier to do so whilst he remains an MP than if he resigns?

If he stays, what benefit does anyone derive from his presence as a backbencher?

Who knows, another party might win the by-election. Also a result for anyone not entirely enamoured by a Tory government.

I would have thought the weightier news for anyone more pink than blue in the political spectrum might have been the potential for Corbyn's constituency to disappear under proposed constituency boundary reforms. Surely that's better fodder for conspiracy theories and ire than Cameron throwing in the towel?
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No doubt Dave will be off to such as Goldman Sachs, or J P Morgan or similar, to sell his inside influence, as many of his colleagues and predecessors.

Interesting how Jose Manuel Barroso has now also joined the Vampire Squid.

What's his expertise? Bankrupting Portugal when Finance Minster and then PM?

Useful, I guess if one's corporate aim is to destroy things.........

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I am a Scot and can't stand Cameron ..with every fibre of my being I hope that The Scottish Nation sh17s on him and his record with the same contempt he has treated them.

'His West Highland Forebears' have created a new mountain range and source of thermal energy by virtue of the amount of grave spinning they are having to do.

Goodbye Cameron you and Gormless George are not missed.
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Not all Daily Mail articles are utter trash.  This one is by Peter Oborn who has done all the research that I have been too idle to do myself:

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3786407/PETER-OBORNE-tragic-flouncing-make-mint-Dave-s-shown-s-heir-Blair.html[/url]

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Possibly the most ridiculous article I have ever read in the Mail. Nice to pay attention to what Cameron has actually said rather than come up with spurious nonsense.

Cameron is, I suspect though I do not have a direct line to his thoughts, deeply hurt by the Brexit result and by the direction that his successor is taking, so has decided to resign, rather than become a focus for opposition to her. Ever word he said would have been scrutinized for hidden meanings, he could not have spoken out on issues, he would effectively have been muzzled.

Now he moves on, gets a new life and if he earns some dosh, good luck to him. Politics is not the b all and end all of life. Many of those who do remain in office after being ousted just become time servers who can't do anything else, whereas their experience could have been useful elsewhere.
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Paragraphs 1,2,3,5,6 to start with.

I resent the whole implication that it is wrong for former PMs to get out of the House. It is utterly idiotic.

Throughout the article there are numerous unproven assertions about what he is going to do etc.

Then there is just one which makes me really weep and that is the reference to Harold Wilson; he stayed in the house, never spoke, but was seriousloy impaired by his degenerative illness, when he should have stood down and let in younger blood.

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Wilson left the House in 1983 eleven years before he died. Churchill remained an MP until shortly before he died. I don't think he ever spoke in the house after he stepped down as PM.

Personally I think Cameron has done the right thing in resigning. After having had the top job would you want to be a plain backbencher again with little or no influence on events.

I have never seen the logic in the idea that those who cause the mess should clear it up assuming of course that they didn't intend to cause the mess. In my experience a new broom does a better job

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Here's a thing.

Imagine there's a bloke running a great big company. There's a vote by the shareholders which means he's no longer able to run the company as he sees fit, so he steps down as CEO.

The shareholders then turn round and say that he has to stay on as an administrator.

He, on the other hand, fancies a career change.

What benefit do the shareholders get from making him stay? Is it the perverse satisfaction of making him miserable, and if so how does it make them feel better?

I'm puzzled by this whole thing. Maybe if he covered himself in sackcloth and ashes and went to live in a cave, that would satisfy people?
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I think it is part of the tall poppy syndrome, YCCMB, and the relishing of continuing to kick a man or woman long after events have moved on.

Would people have preferred him to do a Gordon Brown - continue to occupy a seat, collect a salary and expenses, yet never appear in Parliament except for one or two debates?

By the way, Mint, when Cameron became PM, he gave up his PM's pension entitlement.
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I used to quite enjoy the Indy: even, in the days when I took a daily paper, had a copy delivered, daily.

However, that was in the halcyon days of Andreas Whittam-Smith's editorship.

Today, so sadly, rather than being truly "Independent" it has like so much, degraded into a Liberal-Left luvvy cheerleader sort of rag.

Recent history shows the culpability of Dubya Bush and his coterie of war criminals (Cheney, Rumsfield and not the least Papa Bush ex head honcho of the CIA et al) in the destabalisation of Iraq and Afghanistan etc.

Dave was simply following suit; as did BLiar as Dubya's tame lapdog poodle.

Actually, the dire problems in the Mid Orient (Middle East) go back to 1953; and the secret CIA plan tabled by one Kermit Roosevelt, then Head Mid-East Desk, CIA, who created a secret plan to topple the democratically elected PM Mossadegh of Iran and boost the pretender, Shah Rezza Pavlava onto the Peacock Throne.

There is a very interesting and useful book on this: All the Shah's Men.

See Here

The other causal factor was, without a doubt, the geopolitics game of Russian destabalisation "destabilizatsiya" played between the Soviet Union and the West and NATO, where Soviet Russia aimed to stir up as much local trouble as possible as a political economic weapon.

Syria, for example, was a Soviet Client State and Russia shipped in mountains of war matériel, MIG fighters, provided pilot training and etc. These were employed against Israel, repeatedly.

Afghanistan was the same: with the West (UK- SIS and USA-CIA) supporting the original Mujahadeen - freedom fighters and Soviet Russia the government forces.

For me, the only political figures who come out of this whole sorry mess showing any moral compass and core integrity were the Labour MP Clare Short and ex Cabinet Minister the late Robin Cooke, who both resigned from BLiar's government over the illegal Iraq invasion.

So sadly, for humanity, in all these follies, no one in charge enjoyed the wit of winning the ensuing "Peace": despite the USA having a massive archive of expertise in the Pentagon of how to manage Europe post the defeat of Hitler and the Nazis. MilGov et al.

Study of this matter shows two stark realities: that plans for Europe post-war started in the early 1940s on a "Not if but when" basis. Huge numbers of experts were employed and trained to be able to follow Patton etc and impose order and government in the draft of the armies.

Not so with the current crop of bloody self-serving political cowboys!

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Contrary to what some people on here may think, I have no great vindictive feelings towards him or burning wish to see him "punished" for whatever!

I didn't like the way he immediately resigned after the referendum and I thought the least he could do, having been the person who made the referendum happen, was to stay on, calm things down as best he could politically and in other ways.

It was very terrible in those early days when the UK practically had no one in charge, Johnson, Gove, all those so keen for Brexit and worked so hard for it, practically disappeared into the woodwork.  I did think Cameron was better than that............but then I often overestimate people[:-))]

As for the present resignation, I feel he has let his own constituents and admirers down as he did say he would stay till the general election, did he not?

Staying on on a lowly backbencher's salary might not be to his taste but sometimes the right and honourable thing to do is often inconvenient.

Edit:  I am embarrassed to say that, having started this thread, I am in fact no longer much interested in it!

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Thank you, Gluey, that is très gentil[:)]

Here's an article (still about Cameron) which I think you might enjoy because I think it might appeal to your sense of humour:

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/14/mays-pmqs-disaster-gives-cameron-parting-gift-of-schadenfreude[/url]

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Thank for that web ref, Mint.

Yes indeed, very amusing to hear Corbynchov in full flight; what a clown.

Seems his utopian vision of an egalitarian paradise is undiminished; despite all those wasted years of politicians treating education as an exercise in socialist dreams and a political football.

Poor kids: even poorer socio-economy.......

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