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http://fr.news.yahoo.com/07042006/290/une-peine-de-25-ans-de-reclusion-requise-dans-l.html

I remember this happening, it was horrible.  I'm glad he's locked up, and his accomplice too.  What kind of a "joke" is it to tie someone up, douse them in petrol, and threaten them with a lighter?      

Interesting non-comment about immigrant attitudes towards women.

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Sadly this kind of crime, often disguised as suicide, is fairly common in the UK. Because it is supported by the community, the police often find it difficult to prosecute due to lack of witnesses. I think it's going to take a long time to change attitudes that allow these crimes.

Hoddy
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Horrible. 

When the  Police brought the guy back to the place where it happened to reconstruct the crime, he was cheered by other youths on the estate (no mistake, cheered, not jeered).[:'(]

I feel pretty sure that similar attitudes are behind so called honour crimes and this crime, but was this 'classed' as an  'honour' killing' of the kind Hoddy refers to?

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[quote user="Hoddy"]Sadly this kind of crime, often disguised as suicide, is fairly common in the UK. Because it is supported by the community, the police often find it difficult to prosecute due to lack of witnesses. I think it's going to take a long time to change attitudes that allow these crimes. Hoddy[/quote]

Hoddy, is this the kind of thing you mean?  http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,1753903,00.html

It's a problem, isn't it?   Human rights versus cultural rights, I suppose.  But if something's wrong, it's wrong.  Or is it?  [;-)]

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If someone's basic human rights are being flouted then I do believe it's wrong. I hold very strong views on this because of my personal involvement with this case -

http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=1779

Hoddy
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[quote user="SaligoBay"]

[quote user="Hoddy"]Sadly this kind of crime, often disguised as suicide, is fairly common in the UK. Because it is supported by the community, the police often find it difficult to prosecute due to lack of witnesses. I think it's going to take a long time to change attitudes that allow these crimes. Hoddy[/quote]

Hoddy, is this the kind of thing you mean?  http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,1753903,00.html

It's a problem, isn't it?   Human rights versus cultural rights, I suppose.  But if something's wrong, it's wrong.  Or is it?  [;-)]

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I am a firm believer in " when in Rome .......... " but now that p.c. rules the world the savages seem able to do as they wish in the name of "cultural heritage". And Turkey wonders why many of the common folk in the EU don't believe that E and W should mix.

John

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